Hot take: if you can choose between an #ebike and a car, of course take the bike.

However if your choice is between a regular bike and an e-bike the former is much more environmentally friendly.

In short, biking become less and less environmentally friendly the more regular bikes get replaced with e-bikes and e-scooters.

#climatechange #environment #biking

@WhyNotZoidberg Hotter take: An ebike motor and battery is probably more efficient than the extra caloric burn from cycling an analog bike, given the typical Western diet.
@prestontumber not even close.

@prestontumber compared to normal bikes? Yes they are worse. I don't think anyone can argue that the combination of mining, electricity for charging (that might come from coal or oil plants, at that) isn't worse than a theoretical half a burger or whatever. That said unless your dietary needs are way off you actually don't eat more, you just lose some weight.

Also this video is made by an e-bike manufacturer.

@WhyNotZoidberg

I wonder if you actually watched the video, because - unless I'm mistaking this for a different analysis of ebikes I've watched - they mention the issues with mining and manufacturing. That said, these amounts are absolutely *miniscule*, especially the charging.

@WhyNotZoidberg My problem with your statement is that it implies something like this:

walking > transit > bikes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebikes >>>>>>>>>>>> cars and trucks. Even if I grant your premise, which I do not, the reality is probably a lot closer to walking > transit > bikes >> ebikes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars and trucks.

Let people have fun with, and feel good about, a thing that has been consistently shown to get people into cycling.

@prestontumber ??? No idea where you got that from.

All I said is that people who can handle a normal bike no problem and switch a functional bike to an e-bike (or worse, a scooter ) are doing a bad thing

@WhyNotZoidberg "However if your choice is between a regular bike and an e-bike the former is much more environmentally friendly."

This is incorrect, full stop. You literally said *much*. If you'd said "slightly", you'd be saying what I am saying.

For the record: your statement doesn't match up to my lived experience. My acoustic bike broke on me all the time, my cargo ebike never has.