Engineers at Apple: "Sorry, y'all, but this "AI" stuff just isn't ready for primetime. Can we do a slow rollout, if at all?"

Product Management at Apple: "That would look really bad. But maybe we can blame someone else?"

Marketing at Apple: "Hold my beer!"

@jwildeboer if there will be a launch at all. i still doubt it.
@jwildeboer it probably means data will leak to third parties outside the US
.. so much for apple's commitment to privacy
@jwildeboer At this point I take any excuse to have less "AI" in my life. I desperately whish to go back to the block chain hype days. Back then I at least had the option to only listen to that nonsense while at work. This too shall pass ... rather quickly.
@jwildeboer

Let us blame
DMA
37.5%
DSGVO
37.5%
DSA
25%
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@jwildeboer Marketing at Apple: hold my delicious, cold-filtered, ecologically friendly, mountain-spring-sourced Beer, winner of seventeen industry awards.
@jwildeboer it's only in the EU it's not rolled out so that does not make sense. Even ChatGPT would come up with a better conspiracy 🙄

@jwildeboer my stomach feeling’s are still not good about the European DMA.

I know the intentions are good, but all I can see the last months is that it would prevent technical innovation and allows the rest of the world to move on, while we are stuck because EU will never be able to catch up by own products and services

🤷‍♂️

@Loredo We've heard the same fears when GDPR was introduced and now many more countries have followed our example and have similar regulations ;)
@jwildeboer @Loredo also tue argument is a blatant lie by Apple but sadly I don't expect regulators like @EUCommission nor @bsi force them to retract that libel and correct their claims...
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] OFC #Apple is just flat-out lying. But what do we expect from a #PRISM Collaborator & #Snitch that is (AFAICT) the only #GAFAM so spineless they rather offered theor customers on a silver platter than doing the right thing and actually follow tueor own claims re: #privacy and cease business in the *"P.R."* #China... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9_oDHNf-4

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@jwildeboer I have similar feelings about GDPR, even after all these years.

What I see in reality is that people will simply not develop solutions that are GDPR compliant, but will simply not develop anything at all. that means innovation is totally stuck for many many customers, simply because of fear “i could do something wrong and then someone will sue me”. this is the other side of the medal.

I know exactly why GDPR was invented, but the time is right to renovate it

@Loredo @jwildeboer despite what you think, and the GPDR's implementation faults, your perception about it is quite wrong. Many companies are constantly ensuring they are compliant with it at the risk of losing licenses and having to pay hefty fees. All EU citizens transparently benefit from it; we also suffer an example of how human nature and corporate greed found a way to twist something, in the form of cookie banners, but that's a different story.
@gryzor I don’t think you got my point right. you don’t seem to respect other people’s opinions either, at least you don’t seem to try to understand my arguments. you put me into a corner where I’m actually not standing, maybe it was a good idea to think about it some more

@Loredo if your take is that I didn't respect your opinion, I don't have more to say. I told you that your opinion is not accurate, but I didn't disrespect you or it; it's an opinion. I gave you mine based on my experience which happens to be real (don't know about yours).

You're not painted in any corner, cut the crap, nobody is attacking you. We're comparing the GPDR effect with the DCA's effect.

@Loredo @jwildeboer if that's the case and other countries think alike, they should implement GDPR-like legislation as well. Sooner or later the Big Techs might have to comply anyway because there is no place left on earth where they can go without. And i'm pretty sure that the shareholders will think the same when they see the stock collapsing because of the lost business.

Nobody forces them to stay out but if the product is broken from the beginning, well, i wouldn't want it here anyway.

@Loredo @jwildeboer

And when they started developing the product, they already knew about the laws and they willfully ignored them. Noone except Apple is to blame here.

@jwildeboer OFC #Apple is just flat-out lying.

But what do we expect from a #PRISM Collaborator & #Snitch that is (AFAICT) the only #GAFAM so spineless they rather offered theor customers on a silver platter than doing the right thing and actually follow tueor own claims re: #privacy and cease business in the "P.R." #China...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9_oDHNf-4

How Tim Cook Surrendered Apple to the Chinese Government

YouTube

@jwildeboer Exactly - this is baseless EU blaming.

And of course the USA IT press, always so critical, just copies the “due to DMA”

I prefer the take by The Register who aren’t as easily technobro’d:

https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/21/apple_intelligence_eu/

Apple Intelligence won't be available in Europe because Tim's terrified of watchdogs

These privacy rules might harm privacy! No, really, that's totally why we're doing this

The Register
@jwildeboer I misread that as European DNA, and I thought "that man is either a cannibal or very kind"
@jwildeboer apple TV is as useless as a Tesla
@jwildeboer Would that my country could have regulatory issues so bureaucratic and draconian
@jwildeboer AI? Okay. But what is the problem with mirroring and screen share?
@paulos @jwildeboer I’d put money on there being an expectation that both features would be expected to work with non-Apple platforms.
@codepope Ah... I mean, it would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath... @jwildeboer
@jwildeboer @briankrebs The Apple Intelligence rollout is already limited. It will only work on the iPhone 15 Pro and the iPhone 16, when it’s released in the fall. Apple Intelligence needs 8GB of RAM, so even the current year iPhone 15 won’t get it.
@jwildeboer you do know it launched at WWDC with the caveat US English only and no dates for other languages?

@jwildeboer @baldur

Also, really confusing how the iPhone Mirroring to Mac feature would be affected here - should require zero need to do anything additional with my data, it's all within the same account.

@jwildeboer tbh, I don’t actually want to know what product that is, named Intelligence and not compliant with EU DMA
@jwildeboer when thry trip on a rock down their driveway do they yell "DIGITAL MARKETS ACT"
@jwildeboer You can only use that trick a few times until people start noticing that EU compliance is a actually a good quality indicator.