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William Lindsey

"Wikipedia’s editors declared that the Anti-Defamation League cannot be trusted to give reliable information on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and they overwhelmingly said the ADL is an unreliable source on antisemitism. It’s a stunning rebuke to one of the world’s preeminent authorities on anti-Jewish hate and a significant advocate for the rights and causes of American Jews."

~ David Goldman

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #Gaza #antisemitism
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/19/media/wikipedia-adl/index.html

Wikipedia now labels the top Jewish civil rights group as an unreliable source

Wikipedia’s editors recommended that the Anti-Defamation League should not be trusted to give reliable information on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

CNN

William Lindsey

"Wikipedia's editors have voted to declare the Anti-Defamation League "generally unreliable" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, adding it to a list of banned and partially banned sources."

~ JTA and Asaf Elia-Shalev

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #Gaza #antisemitism
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-19/ty-article/adl-faces-wikipedia-ban-over-reliability-concerns-on-israel-antisemitism/00000190-2f1d-d2ff-a5d1-7fdf29a30000

William Lindsey

"An overwhelming majority of editors involved in the debate about the ADL also voted to deem the organization unreliable on the topic of antisemitism, its core focus. A formal declaration on that count is expected next."

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #Gaza #antisemitism
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William Lindsey

"The decision about Israel-related citations, made last week, means that one of the most prominent and longstanding Jewish advocacy groups in the United States – and one historically seen as the leading U.S. authority on antisemitism – is now grouped together with the National Inquirer, Newsmax, and Occupy Democrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation in the eyes of the online encyclopedia."

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #Gaza #antisemitism
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William Lindsey

"Moreover, in a near consensus, dozens of Wikipedia editors involved in the discussion said they believe the ADL should not be cited for factual information on antisemitism as well because it acts primarily as a pro-Israel organization and tends to label legitimate criticism of Israel as antisemitism."

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #Gaza #antisemitism
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Jo - pièce de résistance Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy they are not wrong. The ADL has accused many Jews of antisemitism for not agreeing with Israel’s Zionist agenda which breaks every commandment.

“because it acts primarily as a pro-Israel organization and tends to label legitimate criticism of Israel as antisemitism."
That’s exactly what ADL do.
They stifle dissent using false claims of antisemitism to do so.
They equate antizionism with antisemitism which is wrong.

https://mastodon.social/@JoBlakely/112385827730722919

William Lindsey

@JoBlakely I agree.

Ramesh #NotGoingBack Jun 20, 2024

⬆️ @wdlindsy

>> "decision about #Israel-related citations… means that one of the most prominent & longstanding #Jewish advocacy groups… – and one historically seen as the leading #US authority on #antisemitism – is now grouped together with the #NationalInquirer, #Newsmax, & #OccupyDemocrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation"

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #antisemitism #BDS #BDSMovement

Want to tag this with #ShamAntisemitism and #inTheirName for no particular reason.

Misuse Case Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy @martinvermeer Speaking as an American Jew, I don’t feel like the ADL has advocated for me for years. They are pro-Israel first, and interested in the welfare of American Jews and other Diaspora Jews as a distant second, if that.

William Lindsey

@MisuseCase @martinvermeer Thank you for that good, clear statement, which echoes what I hear many Jewish people whom I esteem highly saying.

Martin Vermeer FCD Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy @MisuseCase Wikipedia doesn't even go there. Their interest is building a trustworthy product built on factuality, a bit like the scientific community at its best - though, a different product. It has taken them decades to become as good as they are and build a model that resists the bad-faith actors, propagandists, agents of mendacity.

If folks like this call you unreliable, perhaps you're doing something wrong.

William Lindsey

@martinvermeer @MisuseCase When you say, "Wikipedia doesn't even go there," I'm not really clear where "there" is. I'm not clear as to what you're saying, that is.

Martin Vermeer FCD Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy @MisuseCase What @MisuseCase wrote about. That is also very real, but Wikipedia's problem is only with their factual trustworthiness.

Oli Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy
Clearly wikipedia is "hamas" /s

Along with the UN, Unicef, Oxfam, Save the Children, Human rights watch,B'Tselem, South Africa, Spain, etc etc

Edit: sarcastic

William Lindsey

@OliverNoble Really? Wikipedia is Hamas?

I suspect the hugely diverse world that constitutes Wikipedia would be very surprised to learn that, as would the billions who use Wikipedia daily.

Oli Jun 20, 2024

@wdlindsy its a sarcastic comment (hence the /s)
I will edit it, to make that clear

William Lindsey

@OliverNoble I'm sorry I misunderstood and sorry to be so obtuse and uneducated — not to know what /s means! You've taught me something, and I appreciate that.

Oli Jun 21, 2024

@wdlindsy no need to be sorry
I am fairly new to social media and quite late on life so I have made all kinds of gaffs by misunderstanding posts or missing the point

/s is really useful, especially if running out of characters, but i will try to avoid it and use /sarcasm

William Lindsey

@OliverNoble I do very much appreciate your helping to educate me about these matters!