A friend of mine, who's a lead developer on a major app that I’m absolutely sure you’ve heard of (and have probably used) was asked a question last night that pissed both of us off:

“Do you work in design or HR?”

This friend is a woman. This woman is at WWDC. This woman has coding chops that could kick your ass.

Do not make assumptions about _anyone_ at a conference.

When you do, you look like a dumbass.

@chockenberry years ago at a WWDC during a vendor expo, a friend of mine who worked on apps I guarantee everyone has used and/or heard of had some guy insisting for almost an hour that she couldn’t be a coder, she had to be a designer.

I was there, and along with her, listing off the very major coding and research things she had done, and he *refused* to believe her on her own career.

It was *surreal* and she was like “oh that happens regularly.”

@bynkii I know it does. And this is not the first time I’ve reminded men not to be a dumbass. (It's _always_ a man.)
@bynkii @chockenberry I never understood how this happens. Not the stupid assumption part - humans are excellent at making those - but choosing to die on that hill when proven incorrect? That's just... I don't get it.
@draeath @chockenberry never underestimate how hard someone will work to avoid admitting error
@szescstopni @CStamp Awesome. I was expecting “jet" and got “space shuttle" instead 😀
@chockenberry Perhaps he encountered Leah !!
@chockenberry The answer is, laughing, "No, are you looking for a job?"
@chockenberry "So when do I get to talk to the chef?"

@carmanjelo @chockenberry

LOL... we just watched that episode last night. We both muttered "dumbass" when it happened.

@chockenberry was nice to see a large number of women Lead Devs and Engineering Managers presenting at #LeadDevLondon the audience was less diverse though.
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Several years ago, I was at a Nintendo conference with a female colleague. A guy asked if she was in marketing. I said “no - she’s the lead developer on the game engine”. Stunned silence

@chockenberry I remember being at a job interview where they asked a generic where do you see yourself in 5 years question and I said I wanted to help people.

Interviewer: What like a nurse?

This was for an IT Managers Job. I already had my degree for 7 years at this point.

@chockenberry why would a designer or HR admin go to WWDC? It had to be deliberately offensive.

@fazalmajid @chockenberry Or just stupid.

Never bet against stupid.

@jeff @chockenberry they're not mutually exclusive.
@chockenberry This doesn't exactly win points with those of us males who work in HR either!
There's a belief among some that HR is easy and therefore is women's work - there's no part of that assumption that isn't complete bollocks!
@chockenberry Reminds me of the time the startup downstairs from me had a party that I dropped in on. I asked one of the women what she did at the startup, making no assumptions.
Her reply? "They hired us to attend this party because no women work here."
The tech world is so painfully broken.

@chockenberry

Ignorant not only of women's capabilities but of the fact that they wouldn't be good at design or HR, which are far more challenging than they seem to think.

@chockenberry I can’t believe we still have to call out this kind of behavior.

It’s a symptom. Lots of people will be shocked by this idiocy, but haven’t done a thing to get at the root of the underlying issues.

@jean More men need to work with women. The root of the ignorance is a lack of diversity. Followed closely by “being one of the guys”.

@chockenberry I once went to a party thrown by a major tech company at a big tech conference. Trying to make conversation, I asked the woman I was talking to, who had a badge from the party sponsor, what she did there.

"I'm the CEO," she told me.

Oops. I was very embarrassed.

@blp @chockenberry watched a new hire ask the company CEO this, it was a good time. 😂

Totally innocent but yeah

@chockenberry I have never understood this line of reasoning. If I go to a coding conference, is it not reasonable for me to assume everyone in attendance is a coder? Apparently, according to most people, yes?!
@chockenberry Always happens to me. But afterwards I slap them with my knowledge.
@chockenberry oof, that must have been extremely auqward, hopefully it wasn't asked with the intention I think it was asked with, but something tells me it was. Out of curiosity, what app? I'm not a mac user, never was, but maybe I used it when I used ios?
@chockenberry I hope they were properly made to feel foolish and learned from this
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I would guess every professional woman has at least one story like that. I certainly do.