jeffwWindows Recall demands an extraordinary level of trust that Microsoft hasn’t earned
Toes♀Anything that takes data off the computer is a no fly zone.
ZeppoIt doesn’t transmit the data; it supposedly stores it locally. The issue is it’s a huge convenient plaintext trove of information if the system is compromised.
gravitas_deficiencyIt’s entirely a nonstarter for entire fucking industries. That’s not hyperbole. I work in one of them.
zivizAccounting details, sensitive credentials for sys admin use, HIPAA data, PII etc. there’s just so much crap understood to be temporarily unlocked, viewed, and then immediately deleted or locked again. Even home users shouldn’t turn this thing on, check your bank? Balance and account details now always available. Use a password manager? Whatever you looked at is likely captured.
talUsing it may not be legal for videoconferencing in states and countries where recording without notification is illegal.
Also, legalities aside, if there is any application that might be displaying the contents of one’s laptop webcam onscreen, that turns it into something that logs a series of snapshots of that (and then OCRs any text that the camera can see). I can see potential problems there.
NateNate60Microsoft’s solution will be to remove the feature from Enterprise versions of Windows while keeping it around for the plebs using Pro and Home
Morphit Their solution is to let users filter out websites in compatible browsers. This lets them blame the user for not marking sensitive websites as such. I don’t know if native applications can also be filtered.
Of course they also filter out precious DRM protected content. You wouldn’t steal a series of JPEGs.
helenslunchto the title’s implication that such trust can be earned: it kinda can’t. That’s basically the point of really good passwords and secrets
Most people use and recommend encrypted password managers on remote servers. Which is fine, so long as the encryption is open source and audited and the company has a good and long positive reputation.
MS has none of these things.
MudManIn their defense, my mom hasn't earned that level of trust from me, either.
When I read this, I’m glad I ain’t using windows anymore.
If it was turned off by default, it would be different as people would be consciously choosing. But turned on by default should be illegal.
As some people are saying, a lot of this isn’t gonna be legal in some countries.
Just for people that haven’t searched it yet:
During setup of your new Copilot+ PC, and for each new user, you’re informed about Recall and given the option to manage your Recall and snapshots preferences. If selected, Recall settings will open where you can stop saving snapshots, add filters, or further customize your experience before continuing to use Windows 11. If you continue with the default selections, saving snapshots will be turned on.
It sounds like YOU need to TURN IT OFF
For all the invasive problems this feature causes, what the fuck does it actually do? The ability to ask an ai what website you were on last Thursday? Who needs this garbage
SneezycatI have my search history for that. Useless “feature”.
The most evil company that ever existed needs it. So you will have it by default.
FranklinListen Microsoft is super evil but I I think most pharmaceutical companies have them beat.
Who needs cancer drugs??? Muahahaha HAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Also nestle says hi
ArtVandelayUnion Carbide says hi
The concept is useful. A well known idea capture of it is the famous “As We May Think” article from Vannevar Bush all the way back in 1945, which conceptualized a machine “Memex” that would enhance humans capabilities with for example memory and recall. A lot of humans needs help with this and use devices for this daily, with notes, map lookups of where you parked, find my things for devices, analytics for photo libraries etc etc etc.
The only issue here is the implementation.
I mean that can be super useful. Doesn’t mean it’s worth the risk.
MyOpinionWhat this opens the door to is MICROSOFT will be able to get your database and be able to ask it questions as if it was talking to you. An AI agent of you that they can do what they like with. This is insanely dangerous.
ripcordParticularly since they’re requiring everyone to log in using credentials via their infrastructure.
They absolutely have a way in.
I’m super interested to see how companies handle this when employees work with confidential data all the time.