If I was a university prof and a student's parent contacted me demanding that I change their grade I would get my mom to write back to them & tell them to leave me alone

@ElleGray

I had a candidate's mother contact me and demand to know why they didn't get a job they'd applied for. "I'm not at liberty to discuss HR issues. Good day."

I couldn't get over the nerve. Also their kid interviewed exceptionally poorly. After that call, they were blacklisted.

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @ElleGray Did the candidate know their mother had called you? I can see shitty parents doing this behind their child's back, and ruining their job prospects.

@fullfathomfive @ElleGray

Fair point, and I don't actually know the answer. This is quite a long while ago, so I may have forgotten.

I was surprised that she had my direct line. I suspected at the time that the candidate had picked up one of my business cards and either gave it to her, or she found it. But I am not sure.

The candidate was in their mid-twenties, so certainly old enough to be handling their own affairs in any event.

@ElleGray it's a good idea and I should have thought about that when i was working in Macedonia! Thanks

@ElleGray

No doubt resulting in the student's parent saying β€œWell, I never”

@ElleGray My luck, they'd hit it off, start writing back and forth, become best of friends, and I'd have to start spending holiday dinners seated next to the student who still hadn't passed the class after 4 attempts.
@Bodling @ElleGray the Hallmark movie writes itself: "HELICOPTER PARENT".
@ElleGray
Fight fire with fire, eh.
@stargazersmith @ElleGray Have you heard about Elle's mom? This is fighting a Bic lighter with a flame thrower.
@roadskater @ElleGray
I had not heard about Elle's Mom. Thanks for the heads up.
@ElleGray It’s a problem at community colleges too.
@heafnerj @ElleGray I had a prof in CC about 15 years ago explicitly say β€œthis is college, you are adults, and if your parent contacts me I will make fun of you in class for it.”
@ElleGray one would like to think this doesn't happen, but ... ... ... 😭
@ElleGray When I was in academia, my colleague had a student in his office in tears about her low grade. At one point, this student said, β€œMy mom and I worked really hard on this assignment!” to which my friend suddenly got very serious, informing the student that her mother helping write her assignment was academic misconduct and could land the student in front of the disciplinary board. The tears dried up real quick, I understand.
@ElleGray I'm quite sure enough people cave to this in order to avoid the hassle.

@ElleGray My dad was a professor, and was frequently confronted on Parents’ Weekend with angry parents who would ask β€œWhy isn’t my son [all male college] doing better in your class?”

I don’t think he ever gave in to the impulse, but he was frequently tempted to say β€œWell, the nature/nurture question is still unsettled. Do you think it’s his genetic makeup, or the environment in which he was raised?”

@ElleGray that would be *hilarious*, I love it

@ElleGray

Luckily this doesn't happen in the UK, ever. Or at least in my university.

But I like your idea. If this ever happens to me, I will apply it.

@ElleGray You didn't edit and grade their demand?
@ElleGray Sadly as a university employee we do have to deal with a small percentage of parents who do not understand that their child is 18+ and now an adult. It doesn't surprise me that employers get it now. It is often the students who are desperately lacking adulting-skills and it's clear why (usually mummy hasn't let them develop any and jumps in all guns blazing first).

@NatalyaD @ElleGray On at least a couple occasions, I remember a prof saying something to the effect of "sorry, your solution has this flaw, so I can't give full credit, but you gave such a well-organized, respectful, and thoughtful appeal, here's some partial points back."

To your point, a student having a parent do the appeal robs them of a valuable life skill.

@ElleGray
My sister taught elementary school and she had a parent that kept complaining to her that her child was gifted and should be placed in the class for advanced students πŸ™„ I was good friends with her husband and she was a piece of work, lemme tell ya.
@ElleGray
There's been news here in Japan of parents coming to job interviews instead of their kid.

@ElleGray

i asked why this professors phd students were all pretty women.

the answer was sadly predicktable

Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the professor of love
Some people call me Maurice
'Cause I speak of the pompatus of love a

@ElleGray
Dear Mrs. Mom:

You should let your college age student live like an adult, and fight their own battles.

That's what I did, and my daughter became a college professor!

Cordially, Marina

@ElleGray

Cool. My mum is dead. Maybe I could invite parets to a seance? I luvs a good plan!
@ElleGray FWIW, my wife has been a professor/lecturer in business for 25 years and no parent has ever pestered her about their child's grade. But just the thought of my mother-in-law writing to them and telling them to knock it off sends chills down my spine. πŸ˜‚ "may God have mercy on your soul."
@ElleGray I've never heard of this happening in the UK - at least not to me or anyone I know.
@ElleGray This has inspired me to have my Mom make a TikTok video just stating "FERPA" I can send when these things occur to me as a professor.
@ElleGray
I want my father to take me out of work. They can't refuse.
@ElleGray If I was a university prof and a student's parent contacted me demanding that I change their grade I would tell the parent they got the grade they deserved and stop writing papers for your children lol

@ElleGray

Just a shower of twists and bells and shocks and conjunctions every day. Time to get a writers job at a series, movie, or publication,

Your generosity of gifted larfs is appreciated, but your talent needs wider reach.

Though, nowhere here did I suggest you even slow posting.

@kevinrns that's so kind, Kevin. Ty πŸ™‚