Jon WorthJun 4, 2024

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail South East Europe Day 06 04 Jun 2024 - Arrival of night train, Budapest - Pécs - Beli Manastir - Osijek - Zagreb

Crossing these borders:
Lanžhot 🇨🇿 - Brodské 🇸🇰
Štúrovo 🇸🇰 - Szob 🇭🇺
Beli Manastir 🇭🇷 - Magyarbóly 🇭🇺

These borders on the borders map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/48.971/18.358

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/48.971/18.358

Finally South East Europe! 🎉

#CrossBorderRail All The Borders

All of Europe's rail borders - categorised by type, and whether I (Jon Worth) have been to the location. KEY Black - #000000: visited in 2022 during #CrossBorderRail Project Dark grey - #222222: visited in since the 2022 project Mid grey - #555555: tramways and narrow gauge lines, visited Light grey - #999999: not yet visited Very light grey - #BBBBBB: used for tramways and narrow gauge lines ICONS Track with cross - track is missing or out of use Train with cross, and track - track is useable but no passenger trains Train and track - passenger trains run Map developed as part of my #CrossBorderRail project http://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Two #CrossBorderRail borders done today already

Lanžhot 🇨🇿 - Brodské 🇸🇰
was at 3am, and I’ve been there before anyway

Štúrovo 🇸🇰 - Szob 🇭🇺
I’ve only been to before #CrossBorderRail so that is now added - border number 211. Pic is of the border bridge

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Hungary: country with the second best railway jingle!

Dhhh-duddleoo-duddelloo!

https://youtu.be/kLk_Gt3KIro?si=-OhM7KvhVueECP2Z

MÁV-START Signal

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Here’s this morning’s intro video. Despite my slightly tired appearance I slept very solidly! https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/wXFL8muSo1wR5xhtJRk4ue
#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 - 6/4/2024, 5:53:29 AM

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Quick ride across Budapest under threatening skies…

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Bike 15 of 38
Budapest Nyugati - Budapest-Kelenföld

Distance: 7.4km
Est. duration: 0:45

This bike route, mapped on Komoot: https://www.komoot.com/de-de/tour/1522123426

#CrossBorderRail Budapest Nyugati - Kelenföld | Fahrradtour | Komoot

Jon Worth hat ein Outdoor-Abenteuer mit komoot geplant! Distanz: 7,38 km | Dauer: 00:28 Std

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
A MÁV classic V43 overtakes my train departing Budapest
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Train 12 of 68
IC 812
10:12 Budapest-Kelenföld - Pécs 12:43
MÁV

Train type: MÁV V63 "Gigant" locomotive, 6 carriages
⚡️
🚲: ✅ (Hungarian railways are SUPER for bikes)
🦽: ✅ (needs ramp, it’s on board I think)
🛜: ✅ (in my carriage yes, but not all)
🍽️: ✅
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 🙂

It gets a top score, just about!

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

IC 812
10:12 Budapest-Kelenföld - Pécs 12:43

Distance: 222.2km
Average speed: 88km/h

4 stops:
Sárbogárd
Dombóvár
Szentlőrinc
Pécs

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-south-east-europe-v9-draft_1053482

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe v9 Draft

The routes for #CrossBorderRail South East Europe May-June 2024 - see http://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/ HOW TO USE THIS MAP Lines on the map show train, bus and bike routes - each plotted as accurately as possible. PURPLE and ORANGE lines are train routes. These alternate - one day purples, one day oranges. A different shade indicates a different train. GREEN lines are bus routes. GREY lines are bike routes - more details about these can be found on Komoot here: https://www.komoot.de/user/1897747552710 The full timetable for these routes is here: https://nextcloud.techpolitics.eu/index.php/s/ZjdP5YGH6ZS6ZHK Details of all of Europe's rail border crossings can be found in this map: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_838780

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Link via @nordkommission - more legal cases in Germany against enduring non Schengen compliant border controls. Good! 💪 https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/grenzkontrollen-in-der-eu-aus-der-traum-von-der-reisefreiheit,UEeQeqj
Grenzkontrollen in der EU: Aus der Traum von der Reisefreiheit?

Acht EU-Staaten führen aktuell Grenzkontrollen durch. Darunter auch Deutschland. Obwohl diese eigentlich innerhalb des Schengenraums seit Jahrzehnten abgeschafft sind. Eine Doktorandin klagt nun dagegen.

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Hmmm

This train to Pécs isn’t great

Between Sárbogárd and Dombóvár it’s single track and quite slow and bumpy. The modern IC+ carriage has nice seats but lots of things rattle. I’d somehow sooner have a real branch line train than this quasi InterCity!

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Train 13 of 68
R 7305
12:50 Pécs - Beli Manastir 13:53
MÁV

Train type: MÁV Bzmot railbuses (3 coupled)
⛽️
🚲: ❓(not officially but there’s space)
🦽: ⛔️
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 😐 (high narrow entrances, on board it’s ok)
🧽: 😐 (grimy)

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

R 7305
12:50 Pécs - Beli Manastir 13:53

Distance: 53.1km
Average speed: 51km/h

12 stops:
Pécs-Külváros
Pécsbánya-Rendező
Pécsudvard
Szőkéd
Áta
Kistótfalu
Vokány
Palkonya
Villánykövesd
Villány
Magyarbóly
Beli Manastir

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-south-east-europe-v9-draft_1053482#11/45.9227/18.4103
6211

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe v9 Draft

The routes for #CrossBorderRail South East Europe May-June 2024 - see http://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/ HOW TO USE THIS MAP Lines on the map show train, bus and bike routes - each plotted as accurately as possible. PURPLE and ORANGE lines are train routes. These alternate - one day purples, one day oranges. A different shade indicates a different train. GREEN lines are bus routes. GREY lines are bike routes - more details about these can be found on Komoot here: https://www.komoot.de/user/1897747552710 The full timetable for these routes is here: https://nextcloud.techpolitics.eu/index.php/s/ZjdP5YGH6ZS6ZHK Details of all of Europe's rail border crossings can be found in this map: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_838780

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Bit of confusion though - seems this might go only to Magyarbóly and I need a bus across the border… we’ll see (I’ve worked out a way by bike if I need it!)
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Pécs-Külváros

Pretty sure no one got on or off here. Cool font though

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Pécsbánya-Rendező

A hive of activity. But trees obscure the building

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Train manager comes by. Typical Central European rail dude. I speak no Hungarian, he speaks no English, he scans my pass and all is cool 😎
Show threadJon Worth
More than 80km/h on a Bzmot? This is exciting. And bumpy.
Jun 4, 2024 at 11:05amWeb
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Pécsudvard

More bus shelter than train station. A couple get on. The Bzmot’s engine scares a cat

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Szőkéd

Brutalist station has seen better days. A dude with funky sunglasses gets on

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Áta

A neat station building. A second track. But no people.

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Kistótfalu

The tiny station was on the other side. So here’s what was on my side

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Vokány
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Palkonya

Neatly painted hut

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Never quite certain if the 4G will allow the photo to upload before the next station 🙂
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Villánykövesd

An even better painted hut

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Villány

This is where everyone was going. There’s even freight

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Magyarbóly

So yes the train did end here today. Then it’s a bus across the border… But it’s waiting.

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

#CrossBorderRail unexpected bus

Magyarbóly - Beli Manastir

This is border 211
Beli Manastir 🇭🇷 - Magyarbóly 🇭🇺

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Road borders around here are few. So the bus has to make a large detour - green line. Red is the train route.
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
#Schengen works here 🙂 No stop and no police at the border
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Train 14 of 68
6211
14:25 Beli Manastir - Osijek 14:56
HŽPP

Train type: Macosa 7121 DMU, 2 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ❓(no official space but you could make it work)
🦽: ❓(pretty sure there’s no ramp, although platform is ok)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 😐 (narrow doors, no space for large luggage)
🧽: 🙂

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

6211
14:25 Beli Manastir - Osijek 14:56

Distance: 27.3km
Average speed: 53km/h

4 stops:
Čeminac
Darda
Osijek Dravski Most
Osijek

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-south-east-europe-v9-draft_1053482#11/45.6594/18.6541

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe v9 Draft

The routes for #CrossBorderRail South East Europe May-June 2024 - see http://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/ HOW TO USE THIS MAP Lines on the map show train, bus and bike routes - each plotted as accurately as possible. PURPLE and ORANGE lines are train routes. These alternate - one day purples, one day oranges. A different shade indicates a different train. GREEN lines are bus routes. GREY lines are bike routes - more details about these can be found on Komoot here: https://www.komoot.de/user/1897747552710 The full timetable for these routes is here: https://nextcloud.techpolitics.eu/index.php/s/ZjdP5YGH6ZS6ZHK Details of all of Europe's rail border crossings can be found in this map: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_838780

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Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

These Macosa DMUs in Croatia might look ok outside, but they’re *grim*

The motors are insanely loud

Some have air con - a little less loud, but the air is very bad. This one doesn’t - air is better, but noise is deafening

Pro tip: the very front is the quietest there is. Still not great, but passable!

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Overall though the infra here is better than I’d expected - on the whole Pécs - Beli Manastir - Osijek route

Replace the Macosa DMU with something better and run some fewer stops InterRegio trains and this would be pretty good

The reason I had a bus was some engineering works - so totally legitimate

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

Osijek

Croatia’s 4th city

And *nothing* happening at its station!

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
Ah. My train is a… bus
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

So that was an effing mess

Typical HŽPP

I went towards what I thought was my train (the only train there was) and asked. It wasn’t my train because my train was replaced by a bus between Osijek and Đurđenovac

And then the HŽPP guy got annoyed by my Interrail pass in a bus so cramped my knees are crushed in

Another passenger told me the reason: “emergency track maintenance” 🤷‍♂️

Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024

And really the zeal with which this HŽPP guy is checking tickets on this bus is quite something.

Generally when DB runs a Schienenersatzverkehr bus they don’t check tickets, a sort of “we know this is inconvenient, we’ll leave you in peace”. But not here.

Show threadTim RichardsJun 4, 2024
@jon To be fair, not much happens at any of Croatia's stations. ;)
Show threadBarryPJun 4, 2024
@timrichards @jon The hzpp.hr website seemed incapable of producing a time for Zagreb - Split, just now.
Perhaps it’s a “not every day” service, where you have to be clairvoyant about what day to select.
And phone them if you want to know if a train is on time, seemingly.
Show threadTim RichardsJun 4, 2024
@vandyke4ad @jon That's a disappointing train too, modern but far too small and uncomfortable for such a long ride.
Show threadDavid MichaelsJun 4, 2024
@jon Oooofffff and zero electrification either
Show threadlayer8Jun 4, 2024
@jon
Show threadTwobiscuits🚴‍♂️ Jun 4, 2024
@jon https://youtu.be/_CnTxby5t9E?si=2DvYEI2QkAsL9OCq
Your're at home baby. FM4

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Show threadDining CarJun 4, 2024
@jon
Nevertheless, a very nice modernised station building. In terms of city planning, an interesting city to explore. A lot of green areas, lot of bike lanes in the context of the whole country.
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
@diningcar I’m back in a week!
Show threadDining CarJun 4, 2024
@jon
No ramp. On my trip three days ago, a person with wheelchair boarded. Everybody helped lifting.
Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
These really do look very desolate.
Show threadjnbhlrJun 4, 2024
@jon a sharrow at the very right part of the lane?
Show threadPepijnJun 4, 2024

Are you sure you're not in some post soviet cosplay environment today? All your photos have serious "Good Bye, Lenin!" vibes.

@jon

Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
Agricultural places. This is the Nebraska of Hungary it seems.
Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
... or Croatia. I'm not sure where this is.
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
@Island_Martha I’m now in Croatia yes. Osijek - Koprivnica - Zagreb route
Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
Thank you. My knowledge of Eastern European place names is minus zero.
I'm really quite in awe of this accomplishment. Yesterday - YESTERDAY ONLY! - you were in Vilnius, Lithuania - tonight you are in Zagreb, Croatia. WOW!!!
Show threadJon WorthJun 4, 2024
@Island_Martha oh these are tiny places I’m writing about. Even most Croatians wouldn’t know where these were! But yes, the Warszawa - Budapest night train got me a long way!
Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
Looks well maintained
Show threadroot42Jun 4, 2024
@jon super cute station!
Show threadSiège avec vueJun 4, 2024
@jon Between us we'll soon have the whole Hayes command set!
Show threadMarthaJun 4, 2024
@jon
That is communism at it most virulent.
Show thread🌺 Cat PöñíçkøvāJun 4, 2024
@jon "engine" is probably the nicest word everyone ever called that thing
Show threadJaap BurgerJun 4, 2024
@jon that’s also what it says at the bottom of the screen: “ultimate body transformation”