@andycarolan I almost always use the word "plant-based" online, simply because people don't yell at you when you say it.

Also, I feel it's easier to win others over. Being truly "vegan" is very hard. For example, in Europe, food products have "E numbers" to describe certain ingredients. Some of those E numbers aren't vegan, and some may or may not be.

I do remember a few, like E120 (cochineal) but really, life is too short.

@andycarolan In France, it turns out that any city with a vegan restaurant is too expensive for us to live in. 😀

However, there's a chain of stores called Bio Coop that's in most cities including our target cities and while they aren't vegan, they work hard on being sustainable, including a cabinet full of a dozen types of tofu, so far all excellent.

Of course, it's all packed in plastic. Half the plastic humans every produced was made in the last 15 years.

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