Money doesn't buy happiness is something rich people say, because they can't figure out why people don't like them.

@RickiTarr Money doesn't buy happiness.

but it does *enable* happiness

@RickiTarr Money 1000% can buy happiness (in the form of less anxiety, ability to get what you need without sacrificing something else, etc).

At some point it does give diminishing returns ("hmm, do I want to go downtown for dinner, or take a jet overseas?"), and that's where the people who tout "money can't buy happiness" lives.

@melindrea @RickiTarr But we also see Elon Musk refusing to get therapy and instead trying to buy stuff to fill the empty hole at the center of his ego. It tends to isolate rich people from the consequences that might otherwise impel change and improvement.
@RickiTarr I can say with 100% certainty that every single one of my non pulmonary problems would be solved instantly if I made more money. Hell, even the pulmonary one might have gotten a boost as increased stress increases the chance of sharp sudden declines in my health
@RickiTarr After a certain point it provides diminishing returns but if you have a livable wage you will feel very rich indeed.
@RickiTarr Money can't buy happiness, but it does raise your standard of living, which makes it easier to be happy because you have less crap to deal with. Wealth certainly doesn't make you happy, but nobody becomes happy by being poor.
@RickiTarr @Pistolenkind the science suggests that more money certainly does make you happier if you are in poverty but makes little to no difference at higher wealth levels. Which leads to the obvious conclusion that total human happiness would be higher if we just spread the money around a bit more evenly.
@RickiTarr The variation on that idea is "People who say money can't buy happiness just don't know where to shop".
@RickiTarr it buys happiness, to a point - a point that should just be available to all americans from the get-go, social welfare
@reesericci @RickiTarr The problem is everything has a price tag even death and birth.And everything is over priced with absolutely no repercussions for that greed gouging.
@RickiTarr Money buys breathing space in which the search for happiness becomes easier. It’s still up to you to find the happiness but it’s a lot easier if you have money than if you don’t.
@RickiTarr All this and the comments too
@RickiTarr “Rich people ain’t happy, Homer. From the day they’re born to the day they die they *think* they’re happy, but they ain’t happy…”

@RickiTarr It's certainly a convenient concept for convincing people without money to accept the status quo!

I think it's such a personal experience: maybe true, maybe false depending on the way someone's wired.

Money can absolutely buy happiness if you're going to be happy when you have no worries about paying for food, clothing, shelter, the future, everything. When you can live exactly as you like.

But some people are just gonna be miserable. They'll find something new to be unhappy about.

@Holberg @RickiTarr Not having resources is stressful.

Earning enough resources to provide for yourself and your people is satisfying, and probably the most likely chance at happiness.

Having so many resources that you have no purpose or fulfillment makes life dull and unsatisfying.

Ever play a computer game and cheat with like an infinite resources code? The game gets boring really quick.

So if you DO have nearly unlimited resources, perhaps you could try helping out people who have far too few resources? It solves three problems at once.

@RickiTarr @lisamelton I don’t remember where I heard this but it’s stuck with me:

“Money can’t buy happiness but can solve a lot of problems.”

Solving a lot of problems can lead to happiness. Sounds like this young lady found that out.

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Money buys relief is how that reads, parsing the examples.

@RickiTarr Can confirm.

I was once houseless in my youth. I have Spanged ("Spare change?") and picked cigarette butts out of public ashcans. Lived in a yurt for years... one time at a KOA in the winter.

Now I have a career as a software engineer, and yeah... I'm comfortable. Has it bought me happiness?

It's bought me peace of mind. I'm not sure I want to be happy. I think I'd rather be content.
@notroot the part about happiness vs. contentness reminds me of Tim Minchin's Occasional Address:
"Happiness is like an orgasm, if you think about it too much, it goes away"
https://www.timminchin.com/2013/09/25/occasional-address/
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Occasional Address

Tim Minchin is a comedian, actor, composer, songwriter, pianist and director.

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@RickiTarr there is a fine line between "money doesnt buy happiness" and "more money more problems". It's all about finding that sweet spot. And by sweet spot I mean destroying capitalism.
@RickiTarr Money is the primary path to happiness in a state of Capitalism. Thems the rules. The solution is to try and subvert those rules and re-distribute wealth as we can. The system needs to be blown apart.
@RickiTarr what the rich absolutely can’t abide becoming common knowledge is that not only DOES money buy happiness, but once you hit a certain threshold more money no longer buys any more happiness. The implication being that … say … removing lots of their wealth to give it to poor people would actually help people, and wouldn’t actually hurt the rich.
Top Ten Reasons why Being Super Rich is a Psychological Problem

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This is a great exploration of the camel and the eye of a needle thing
@RickiTarr As my grandfather was known to say:
"Life is like a shit sandwich, the more dough you have, the less shit you have to eat"
@RickiTarr They're getting confused with 'Having THIS much money doesn't buy any MORE happiness'... A reasonable mistake to make 🤷 /s

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there is the little nuance that bought happiness must have originally be produced by somebody else. and one might wonder, how desperate must they be to sell their own happiness?

@RickiTarr money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy comfort and safety, but lacking comfort and safety is why many are unhappy, so money buys happiness

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Money can make problems go away.

@RickiTarr @bigzaphod Similarly, “A rising tide lifts all boats.” Is something rich people say because they have boats.
@donkey @bigzaphod Rising tides sometimes just flood people's houses
@RickiTarr it shouldn't though, and the irony is they're the reason it does
@RickiTarr Willing to take part in an experiment to settle this. Once someone figures what amount of money we're talking about, y'all devise a way to get it to me. We'll give it, say, a year and then I'll report back whether or not it bought me happiness.
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Probably say it because so many of them are utterly miserable no matter how much wealth they accumulate.

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Money can make *some* problems go away. And it can reduce your stress levels because it can fix a lot of problems.

But as my late father-in-law used to say, "if money can solve your problem, you don't have much of a problem." Eventually he had problems (stroke, cancer, heart disease) that money couldn't fix. As happens to most of us if we live long enough.

@RickiTarr People that say "Money doesn't buy happiness" have never had a welfare Christmas.
@RickiTarr money buys comfort, security, and convenience which leads to a great deal of happiness.
@RickiTarr Peer reviewed research show that money buys happiness when you give it away:
https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_norton_how_to_buy_happiness
Michael Norton: How to buy happiness

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@RickiTarr Now I sorta get why some people from my school resent me lol. I love the foodie part in this quote haha.

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Not true. I'm not rich & I would never say "money buys happiness". I don't like this kind of remarks because it raves about money. It's for the wanna-be-rich. All she describes is a capitalistic world and capitalism is happiness only for the selfish. So on a general scale, a more accurate truth is "money STEALS happiness (from others)" or "money buys MISERY (for others)". If it "buys happiness", it's only in a ratio of one for everyone else. It's how shitty #capitalism & #money are.

@Ronial The whole joke is that the people who say Money doesn't buy happiness, have money, but it does buy security and if you want to say that doesn't provide a good amount of happiness then you've never been poor

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You just approve capitalism where I don't. That's all. Maybe unconsciously, I don't know. Do you think rich people don't think "money buys happiness" ? Why would they be rich ? They think exactly like you. You just give money the worth capitalists want you to give to it. Saying "money doesn't buy happiness" may be opportunist coming from rich ones, I agree. But it's not what it buys. If it buys you "security", it's while depriving others of it. Inherently. It's a selfish statement.

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And to promote the fact that money would effectively buy "happiness" is an easy way not to question the system & not to think about creating means to facilitate and democratize "happiness" (like UBI or so, all that could bypass the miserly and very limited capitalist "power" model). The "happiness" problem is not about money, it's about affordability. Money is just a vector among others. It's the wealthy ones who choose it should be a matter of amount of money. It doesn't have to.

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So in simple words : money buys happiness only for rich people. And that's all.

@RickiTarr It seems like a lot of rich people are unhappy and since they can’t see beyond their own experience they assume it’s the same for everyone else regardless of income.
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Or why they continue to be miserable cunts.
@RickiTarr lack of money causes pain and distress.

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As #GNUTerryPratchett put it:

Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does allow you to rent it for a while...

@RickiTarr the fact that people can't see the truth of "money can't buy happiness" anymore is nothing more than a scathing indictment of just how much the median standard of living has fallen over the last half century.

It's still within living memory in the UK when a single income in a working-class job could support a family, with reasonable housing, food and medical security. And people would scold their peers who chased higher and higher incomes, because what are you going to spend it on? Silly luxuries that nobody needs.

Now it seems everyone I know is stressed about costs of rent and power, about not having their medical needs met. Food bank usage has exploded, and the Tories have the gall to blame us for literally starving.

We are being gaslit on a societal scale.

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A friend of mine used to say "Money doesn't buy happiness, but at least you can be miserable in comfort."