Things that are younger than Joe Biden (1942) or Donald Trump (1946):
Also: Over 95% of the US Population is below the age of 78.
Biden and Trump are older than the first working transistor (1948).
The resistor is older. It has been there for ages.
@NeonPurpleStar you can criticize a guy and still vote for him, here's my general opinion on Biden and the election:
https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/112317115359168819
I think the thing that separates us from the Republicans the most is that we don't have some sort of cult around the main guy, like we can criticize him and still vote for the party he represents, as well as criticize that party's flaws.
Joe Biden has deported more people than Donald Trump [[1](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/)], funded the police more than Trump [[2](https://democrats.org/news/president-biden-expands-funding-after-republicans-voted-against-funding-for-the-police/)], and has now helped to kill more Palestinians than Trump [[3](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/us-president-biden-sued-for-complicity-in-israels-genocide-in-gaza)]. If you cannot allow criticism towards this person because you believe critiquing them is the same as endorsing the opponent, then you are participating in the very cult behavior you should be criticizing. # Yes, Trump would be worse, way worse... ...but it's horrible to compare Trump's *potential* genocide to Biden's currently real and ongoing genocide. Voting Democrat is *harm reduction*, portraying it overall as anything else is, *in my privileged opinion*, incorrect. In many individual examples I can, however, see how you come to view the Democrats not just as the lesser evil, but even positively. Many vulnerable groups such as queer (*especially trans*) people are helped by a Democratic government, even maintaining the right to abortion is, visibly, helped by Democrats. There are examples in which voting the Democratic Party betters the lives of certain groups. Yet that change doesn't come sustainably and the tides may as well turn. If the Democratic Party is willing to throw one group of people under the bus for winning Republican voters, who is to say they won't do the same with your group? If you don't give human rights to everyone, it's not a right anymore, it's being treated human as a privilege. When it comes to foreign policy, unions, most social services, the treatment of the poor, healthcare, border policy, it's mostly the same between the two parties. Trump is merely the [death of the euphemism](https://youtu.be/0dBJIkp7qIg). A queer person won't vote for a party that doesn't support queer rights, so what should someone of another marginalized group *not* supported by the Democrats do? Additionally, don't forget that **it was the Democratic party that supported and funded Donald Trump's primary election in 2015** [[4](https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/)] as they always back the most far right candidate [[5](https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/)] in order to even make a distinction between the two parties visible. What I'm trying to say is that you, as a democratic voter, cannot blame someone for supporting an alternative party, nor claim that supporting that third party is horrible merely because it may βallow for a Republican victory.β If it was in the Democrat's interest to change the election system or electoral college to allow for something other than effectively a two party system, then they would've done so. I won't ride a high horse and claim it's morally wrong to support the Democrats, **I don't think that.** I do believe, however, that many people are disillusioned in voting for Democrats but know **voting for Republicans only makes things worse.** If not allowing a Republican victory was in the Democrat's interest, then they would **adapt the party's stance to social, non-war/non-genocide, non-deportation, anticapitalist, pro-Housing, and pro-Healthcare for all positions**. They don't, so ***what choice is there*** for people from marginalized groups other than voting for a third party? Can you tell them it's only morally right to vote for a party that **worsens their living conditions** or **wishes to have them erased?** A representative democracy exists so people can voice their opinions through voting in the representation they favor β if you critique them because the USA's democratic system fails to represent them, hence they should vote for one of the two representations that are possible, but aim to kill them or worsen their lives, then you are critiquing an individual for the faultiness of the system. *And last but not least,* any person should still be called out for βboycotting the electionβ, **not voting is ridiculous** which is perfectly [explained by Jay Foreman here](https://youtu.be/_gbDAvK42yA). ***Participate in every election while you can***. :voteblue: :dsa:
@NeonPurpleStar People shouldn't be foiled! If voting for a guy is simply harm reduction, them telling them the truth is honest. It only gets worse if you promise them the world but can't keep those promises. So, no. Be realistic! Be honest about what this election is about: preventing another term of Donald Trump.
People should expect a reform of the electoral college from a party that calls itself democratic, rendering Gerrymandering impossible. But neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are interested in that because it removes them from being one of the two options and opens up for the Greens, PSL, DSA, or even the worse ones like Libertarian. However, I think that'd still be preferable.
So what I'm trying to say here is that we can't keep thinking from election to election, because living conditions keep getting worse, under Biden or Donald Trump. Lying to them and oppressing all legitimate criticism of a candidate until the election is selling people for stupid. I can understand that Biden is suboptimal and still vote for him to prevent the far worse alternative!
Jess says it best with this toot:
https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill/112493230926844524
@ErikUden What, not with Blondie?
(oh god I forgot about the fly)