With the impending doom of ICQ in June and the new crappy version of Teams coming in July, I would like to post this meme one final time

#ICQ #Teams #Microsoft #MicrosoftTeams

@jake4480 also rip kabosu, the original doge (so this is topical on yet another level)
@jake4480
Wow I didn't know icq still existed, so many good memories
@lindsey it's wild, right? I found out I guess that a Russian media company has owned them for a while. Still, yeah - so many memories!
@jake4480
Ahhh isn't that just a classic of old social apps/sites, owned by some Russian company? Lol
@lindsey
I knew they were still there but could not log into my account a few years ago. No way to retrieve it since the log-in email address no longer exists 🙁 So, no way to reset it.
I remember I also used software to combine different platforms such as ICQ. I can't think of the name now.
@jake4480

@pascaline @jake4480
Yeah, I think I remember my number, but certainly don't remember my password, and I think my email was an AOL one lol

I used Trillian towards the end, I remember, to mix that and MSN/AIM/etc

@lindsey
Yes, exactly! I combined it with MSN and something else as well, it was so convenient.

@jake4480

@jake4480 I have to use Teams at work, it's the pits :(

I'm not sure why they need to plaster "New" over the latest versions icon, it looks the same, except more buggy.....

@jake4480 I miss the days when you could have one program, just one… that connected to:

- MSN Messenger
- AOL Instant Messenger
- Yahoo! Messenger
- ICQ
- XMPP… others

Is there such a beast that can connect to Slack, Teams and Zoom for example?

@stuartl This is a really good point - and I don't know that there is! There really SHOULD be. I'd actually be interested in something like that.
@darkstar @stuartl thank you for Bitlbee! Looks amazing. And in 2019, looks like they updated with this. Didn't know about skypeweb or icyque either! 🤯
@stuartl @jake4480 Back in the day I used to use pidgin for this, I think it's still around but I don't know what it can and can't do anymore. Might be worth looking at...

@dunderbrallan @jake4480

Yeah, just looking at it now. Unfortunately no mention of screen sharing or huddles (voice chat)… and that's something I use Slack for on a daily basis.

There's also limited support for 2FA authentication… Slack likes to send me codes in the email as its "2FA".

Still, it might serve some use cases better than the Electron-based mess they currently ship.

@stuartl @jake4480 Ah, I see, too bad. Well, it was probably a long shot to begin with... :)
@stuartl @jake4480 beeper https://www.beeper.com/ - it seems to work relatively well, but it's early days. Commercial backed with a lot of funding by makers of WordPress so it has legs. But, commercial backed so it could die if/when they lose interest. However that describes 95% of broad scale software, so -shrug-
Beeper — All your chats in one app. Yes, really.

A single app to chat on WhatsApp, Telegram, Instagram and 8 other chat networks. You can search, snooze, or archive messages. And with a unified inbox, you'll never miss a message again.

Beeper

@maphew @jake4480

Just having a look now… looks to be built atop of the Matrix IM protocol and there are self-host options with source code available.

I've got things on this week-end, so can't investigate it fully just now, but this is looking promising.

@maphew @stuartl whoaaa this is COOL thank you for this!
@jake4480 @stuartl I've been using Beeper a few weeks. I like it, but it's also problematic because it's hard to know on my phone which network the chat is actually occuring on. This can be very important, for example one kid responds very well on sms but days later if at all for Google chat.

@maphew @jake4480

Yeah, my use case is a Linux desktop client. The only messaging I use on a mobile phone is voice calls, SMS, and the occasional MMS.

@stuartl @jake4480 with desktop client it's easy to see which network is being used. Something to be said for screen real estate!
@jake4480 there's a newer new teams? or am I misunderstanding?
@TheColourOfFear it's the 'new' version that was recently made an option, tried it and hated it - but now they're forcing everyone to use the new version in July. 🙄
@jake4480
The ICQ we have today isn't the one we used to have :(
@raccoon ah, that's true. Been a few years since that, even.
@jake4480 wait there was ever a non-crappy teams version?
@jake4480 Sic transit gloria mundi.
@jake4480 I thought ICQ was shut off at least a decade ago? wtf?
@martin_fff well, maybe as most people knew it, with the buyout from the Russian company, etc

@jake4480 ah.... that would explain

I recall it was Israeli to begin with anyways?

@martin_fff wow yeah you're right - until AOL bought it in 98. Wild. I didn't know that
@jake4480 ... so you know it's full of backdoors. just saying.
@martin_fff oh, definitely. I bet. And when you're as young as I was using it, I never thought about any of that stuff 😂
@jake4480 Just switch to elements. It's federated.
@prefec2 hadn't heard of this one! Wild. Gonna check it out. Unfortunately work requires Teams though ugh 😡🤮
@jake4480 I keep thinking we'd really need something like Trillian again.
@avradi oh woww that takes me back! Trillian was AMAZING
@jake4480 gee, I still remember my number after 20 years.

@jake4480 even if we assume utf-64 that's pretty crazy.

running out of memory with just a name XD

@jake4480 Teams is kinda sucky, and has some weird bugs, but FWIW - the new version has been significantly lighter on RAM and CPU on my work laptop. Not at much as if it was an actual native application, but there's some improvement at least.
@lachlan that's what I was wondering/figuring. I still hate it but maybe it won't be so memory hungry 😂

@jake4480 Remember, once upon a time, when every application didn't boot a new instance of a browser?

Those were the days.

@lachlan ughh YES. The start of that was the start of a lot of the nonsense we see now.
@jake4480 @TundraWolf I never had a 14400 baud modem. I had a 9600 baud modem with 2 bits per state change, giving 19200bps...
@jake4480 Have we really evolved since the days of newsgroups?
@kotaro I don't think so. 😂🤣😂
@acarson @jake4480 I have to use teams at work and I hate it.
@sapphireangel ugh. Same. It is the WORST. And the new version? Even worse. Sigh
@jake4480 Huh ... I need to check Teams probably, if there is a crappy version coming, since my work forces us to use this °_°...
@Jonou ugh. Yep. The change over is coming - it's an option now to use the new version on top left. I tried it, hated it. But in July, we all use it 🙄
@jake4480 Oh... So it's the one we already use.. Okay. ^^" ... Well I'm not so upset with the update alltogether... But~ .. since we updated it, the backround filtre is off and no matter what we do, the noises, which was before suppresd are so loud now ... D: ... *sigh*
@Jonou oh so you're already using it haha. I should probably switch over soon, get used to it. Sigh. 😂