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Rebecca WatsonI hate how whenever US liberals defend immigrants they have to say how hard working they are. I just want it to be known that I support immigrants who are just as lazy, if not even lazier, than me.
Riley S. Faelan@rebeccawatson It's an expression of the deeply ingrained feeling that people, just like Rudolf the Reindeer, a metaphor for a person, have no value unless they can be exploited for capital gain.
Njord@rebeccawatson My general understanding of it is that people hate immigrants *because* immigrants ( regardless of where they are from or where they go) are generally more talented, educated, ambitious, and hard working than average natives, which makes immigrants rather threatening
acm@Njord nah, it's more general racism -- the mix of superiority, fear, dislike, and nonsense stereotypes about crime and jobs.
congusbongusgames@Njord @rebeccawatson have you heard of
Schrodinger’s Immigrant: simultaneously stealing jobs and too lazy to work
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I'm from a fairly immigrant-friendly country stitched unwillingly onto the gangrenous bloating corpse of an empire built on exploiting immigrants, so I can't speak to the US situation.
I will only say I'd have to respect any immigrant lazier than me.
Deus@rebeccawatson
how hard working they are
That has all the vibes of, "Honey! They come from an impoverished country. As liberals we must support them. They have to work doubly harder than us."
Garrett@rebeccawatson I don't think working is as much of a value as we think it is. I wanted to be surrounded by virtuous people, but not ones that say we have to work our life away.
Daniel Brotherston@rebeccawatson Yeah, to me, this "immigrants are hard workers and we should be glad to have them improve our economy" rhetoric rather than "immigrants are human beings, and we should be happy to have them enrich our communities" is a symptom of the toxic level of economic priority I see in the US (and to a lesser extent the west in general).
Related, I laughed pretty hard about the headline that argued that Europe's lower working hours, lower worker productivity, and higher resulting quality of life was a big problem.
I get why capitalists like Bezos feel that we should be feeding the machine, rather than having the machine of capitalism work for us, but I don't understand why the average American (and Canadian) is so easily duped.
Ivan@rebeccawatson good point...
Condor Puma Serpiente@rebeccawatson That line of reasoning has bothered me ever since I made the mental change to stop believing in the concept of laziness entirely. There is simply no human-first, compassionate way to intrinsically tie a person's productivity to their value as a human life
chicating@rebeccawatson The ones I've met are in fact, bogglingly industrious. But they shouldn't have to be to be worth time and attention.
@rebeccawatson I'm disabled and used to go to Disabled Student Resources in college. And they used to brag on this survey that said that disabled people never took sick days never quit...and I didn't realize that was fucked till years after I graduated
Patrick Hadfield@rebeccawatson in the UK, politicians are obsessed with "hard working families".
The rest of us can just piss off.
@patrickhadfield yeah, and somehow the notion that somebody can be working several jobs and still unable to make ends meet is just inconceivable to Men in Suits.
Carrie ✌🏻🫀🤟🏻@rebeccawatson laziness isn't even a thing. It something that was made up to keep us working around the clock. Manipulation all day!
Jobu Tupaki@rebeccawatson
💯, it's such a characteristically capitalism-poisoned extractive mindset. also, too — Calvinism is one hell of a drug! 🥴
💯, it's such a characteristically capitalism-poisoned extractive mindset. also, too — Calvinism is one hell of a drug! 🥴
Jonathan Hartley's old account@rebeccawatson Thank you! I feel *very* supported! 🙂
Mike MC@rebeccawatson i am lazy as fuck and i approve this message
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@rebeccawatson real.
something liberals don't understand is that by saying that immigrants are actually hard working and that's why we actually need them, they reduce them to their work just like conservatives.
They as well completely ignore that shelter and asylum are basic human rights.
something liberals don't understand is that by saying that immigrants are actually hard working and that's why we actually need them, they reduce them to their work just like conservatives.
They as well completely ignore that shelter and asylum are basic human rights.
eladnarra@rebeccawatson As an immigrant now applying for SSDI, I approve this message, haha.
(Disabled people aren't "lazy," but lots of people think we are if we don't work, so I think it counts~)
Badger AF (he/him) DEMOCRACY@rebeccawatson Unfortunately, most people have no idea how much you have to hustle to make a life in another country when you don't have the luxury of working remotely from your home country, may be undocumented, and have to live a spartan existence to send money back home.
Not to even get into paying taxes you'll never see in government services.
Kris Sargent, MD@rebeccawatson My favorite is "they're just coming here to collect Welfare". Really, Cletus? What "welfare" would that be? Food stamps? You think people are risking their lives to come here for industrial cheez and skim milk? For fuck's sake.
Moz@rebeccawatson https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/adaptation-to-climate-change-will is interesting but the comments go straight to "but what if new immigrants are just as bad as current Americans".
I dunno, the USA seems to still be there despite widespread criminality, I don't think it's so fragile that a few more will kill it.
Alon@rebeccawatson You may hate it, but I and the other immigrants I know react much better to the mentality you criticize than to the mentality (prevalent in e.g. Sweden) of "immigrants are a terrible burden we must all share as a moral duty even though they're all lazy criminals who refuse to assimilate to our superior values." The mentality you criticize is praise for immigrants; the Swedish mentality is the opposite.
@Alon hey great points! didn’t read your comment past the comma bc I don’t give a shit
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Vivi, The Heinous Witch@rebeccawatson as a Polish immigrant in the USA currently going through the process, thank you
Raptor's Nest (He/Him)@rebeccawatson Same in the UK. It’s the whole “right kind of immigrants” and not “those other kinds of immigrants”.
Or that we contribute to the economy. Immigrants’ “worth” is measured in economic values.
Or that we contribute to the economy. Immigrants’ “worth” is measured in economic values.
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@rebeccawatson oh I definitely put my 2 cents in agaibst meritocracy whenever someone goes on about earned societal "rewards".
Freakin wild. Do we not want to live in a society where no one HAS to work?
"but they're homeless and don't contribute to society". All I hear is: progress progress line go up money. Lol
caseyjonesed@rebeccawatson the more lazy people the better.