Either ya understand why most women pick the 🐻 or you are the 🐻.

https://lemmy.world/post/15092107

Either ya understand why most women pick the 🐻 or you are the 🐻. - Lemmy.World

I understand why women pick the bear, but I also understand why men are insulted. It’s not that hard to empathetic is it? Maybe I’m wrong.

Even as a dude I’d rather pick the bear over any human. Bears are somewhat predictable humans not so much

Also they can hit me up with some coke

The thing is, they're not. Even those self proclaimed bear experts who say this eventually get mauled to death by them. Bears are wild animals, they're inherently a dangerous predator. A random guy could be a predator, but even then he'd be less dangerous than a bear. The chance that he IS a predator however, are much lower. People who chose the bear are simply delusional and just help rage baiters with the social divide.
This was never meant to be taken that literally. All it ever was supposed to be was a metaphor for violence perpetuated against women by showcasing how those numbers far exceed the numbers for injuries inflicted by a known danger to humans. Anyone seriously discussing the real-world dangers of bear encounters vs men has already entirely lost the plot from the very start.

The ones who entirely lost the plot are those who are supporting this completely moronic claim, as they're an accomplice to how our societies become more and more divided, which is exactly the whole point of this rage bait & spread through meme formats like this.

Remember when the IRA did literally the same fucking thing with BLM? The only reason this works is because people like you become emotionally irrational, dying on this very hill of utter stupidity, because it makes you think it gives you some sort of moral high ground.

Russia and Black Lives Matter - Wikipedia

which is exactly the whole point of this rage bait & spread through meme formats like this

Do you truly believe this meme was intentionally crafted and released as part of some coordinated effort with specific intent of stewing division between the sexes?

No one can prove who created this meme - at least as far as I’m aware.

However, after it was created, it certainly has been boosted and magnified by right wing organizations and intelligence operations to cause the working class to turn on itself and dehumanize one another. Which is always what fascism does to distract from oligarchic wealth and societal decay.

This meme is evil. It isn’t funny or cute. It’s intentionally cancerous and we need to stop spreading such hate.

Because it isn’t white men in wealthy suburban communities who will suffer from this. Rather, it will be the black, brown, and migrant men who are already dehumanized and seen as superpredators.

After all, why was it so wrong for the police to murder George Floyd - he was more dangerous than a bear and (white) women were afraid of him. Given that, it seems that those hero cops acted in accordance with our society’s values, doesn’t it? Or, if we reject that notion, the we must also reject ā€œmemesā€ like this that further the dehumanization that leads to his murder

My friend, I genuinely think you are expressing paranoid and delusion behavior. I’m not trying to be funny, I’m not trying to win any arguments, I genuinely believe that is an unhealthy amount of very specific narrative subtext to read into this. Trying to equate this mild trend making almost milquetoast commentary on real violence trends against women with the state-sanction murder by police of George Floyd is borderline unhinged thinking.

The superstructure of society encourages dehumanization of black and brown and ā€œforeignā€ men because they are seen as dangerous violent animals. This is a centuries old rhetorical ploy by the ruling class to subordinate the masses through fear. This meme contributes to and further such ideology

Did a single individual anti Semitic poster in 1934 Germany cause Dachau? Of course not. But the that single individual poster was one of millions of contributing factors that caused the conditions that allowed for the Holocaust

We should recognize and denounce such hatred when we see it

We aren’t talking about the othering of a type of human here, we are talking about MEN. 50% of the human population. To imply that this remotely resembles the way in which Whiteness has repeated overtly othered minority segments is beyond just disingenuous, it is knowingly manipulative and nefarious.
This one specifically? No idea. But I've seen several variations of this by now, including fresh accounts on that other site that post some absolutely ridiculous Tinder convos, and then begging for the bear in the title. This whole thing is spreading so much that I highly doubt it is entirely organic. And if it is organic, then honestly, that'd probably be even worse because of how much it would say about us as a society who believes in so much bullshit. Given that we literally know that foreign operations target specifically shit like this in social media we should already be extra aware, but even without that, we should simply start to be more decent. Something you fail to do if you spread & support those type of disinformation and toxic stereotypes & downright accusations.

but even without that, we should simply start to be more decent. Something you fail to do if you spread & support those type of disinformation and toxic stereotypes & downright accusations.

This is a fine stance to have, but since this trend started on tiktok I think it might be important to keep perspective of whether or this was meant as a molotov cocktail throw into the public square to ignite the wars of the sexes, as seems to heavily be the implication across this thread, or just perhaps if it instead was a just a video made by a young woman wrestling with the anxieties of reconciling the very real violence against women statistics she sees and trying to reclaim some power through that anxiety by doing what she thinks is awareness-raising.

Can this woman’s thinking be flawed? Absolutely. Potentially harmful even, as you expressed? Sure! But just as you ask of us to be more decent, I don’t think it’s an enormous ask to try and evaluate the reasoning behind why somebody would make the kind of video that would start this trend in the first place.

People are imperfect, and often terrible at messaging. I don’t think that means there’s zero merit to her intent here and I think zeroing in on the pedantic nature of the argument and being offended rather than simply saying ā€œher conclusion is flawed by I see the point she was trying to makeā€ feels to me like it isn’t the one participating in this trend who are perpetuating the cycle here.