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Augie Ray May 7, 2024

"I'm so angry at Biden over Isreal/Gaza that I'm going to help Trump destroy democracy, weaponize the Justice system, send millions to deportation camps, lower the taxes on the wealthy and shift the burden to the middle class, cut Social Security, track and prosecute women having abortions, pardon the people who violently attacked Capitol police, dismantle NATO, help Russia, AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT do even more harm to Palestinians" is a take--it's just a really awful take, IMO.

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Evan Prodromou May 7, 2024

@augieray

"I support this war so much that I'm going to ignore the position of the vast majority of my constituents and party members even though it endangers our chances of re-election in the Fall" is also a take.

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Augie Ray May 7, 2024

@evan I find that glib. Biden does not "love war." And I suspect you're mature and smart enough to understand he's between a rock and a hard place over support for Israel and Gaza. So, in the end, the choice is yours: You can be really, really angry at Biden and not vote, or you can do more to help the world and make Gaza safer by voting for Biden. Elections are not love affairs--you're selecting between flawed choices, not getting everything you want in a candidate.

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Seb May 7, 2024

@augieray @evan And if a leader was supporting a regime killing your children you’d still vote for them as the lesser of two evils? I mean I get it - I’m as terrified of Trump 2 as anyone, but this isn’t an easy decision for anyone so a little bit of empathy does help rather than “you’re stoopid if you don’t vote”.

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ManVsXerox: Resistful Dingus

@seb321 @augieray @evan

Voting is not fixing everything, it's more like repair and maintenance work, it's not gonna fix your car, but it will keep it running and maybe even improve it a little. You have to keep doing it or the car will fall apart, even if you don't like doing oil changes.

In a choice between the lesser of two evils most philosophers would agree that choosing the lesser evil is the more moral choice, evil is not black and white, it's a spectrum ffs.