@thestrangelet Odd, I took the statement that it’s endemic to mean that it hasn’t gone away and we still need to take precautions & commiserating. Saying it’s over is denialist AF but acknowledging the endemic nature of a disease that kills seems informed and reminds people that we all still need to take care. No where did Pink say #Covid was no longer an issue. I find educating people to the nature of an endemic threat valuable. #CovidIsNotOver @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis

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In truth SARS-CoV-2 causing #COVID is panendmic, not just endemic. It isn't like colds or flu ... that come around every now and again like other endemic diseases.

It is still PANDEMIC. But due to its ubiquity, it is also ENDEMIC.

Hence PANENDEMIC. And that is much much worse.

Plus it destroys the immune system, rapidly ages victims, and erases prior immunity to other diseases. and and and and and.

@samohTmaS I understand the severity of the infection & the potential long term consequences. I just looked up #Panendemic and it really is a better word to describe the current state. Thanks. #Covid #CovidIsNotOver #LongCovid @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis
@melanie Interesting. I just looked up the New Yorker article about Morton, the guy who suggested that as the appropriate term. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/timothy-mortons-hyper-pandemic I agree with his logic for what it is but given how language is currently used Pan-endemic seems to carry more urgency with everyday precautions even if Hyperpanendemic is more accurate. Effective messaging is crucial to lessen the impact. #Covid #CovidIsNoOver @Dangerous_beans @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Timothy Morton’s Hyper-Pandemic

Morgan Meis writes about Timothy Morton, a philosopher of “hyperobjects”—vast, unknowable things that are bigger than ourselves—and what Morton’s views reveal about our time.

The New Yorker

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Interesting. Though I am not persuaded that hyper- applies.

SARS-CoV-2 from the human pandemic is now in dozens of other species. It didn't just infect a few individuals (anthroponnoses or reverse zoonoses). It is pandemic in them.

And one of those, some mouse like rodent returned the favor. That was Omicron.

So a better description is I think: poly-panendemic, as it is many interacting endemic pandemics.

@samohTmaS If you read the article you may change your mind. His definition was more about it being dispersed than it being huge. Although the degree of dispersion would make it huge. Like I said to Melanie, it’s going to be interesting to see what wins in the naming department, accuracy or commonality of understanding. @melanie @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Artemis @Dangerous_beans