@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 5, 2024
@thestrangelet Odd, I took the statement that it’s endemic to mean that it hasn’t gone away and we still need to take precautions & commiserating. Saying it’s over is denialist AF but acknowledging the endemic nature of a disease that kills seems informed and reminds people that we all still need to take care. No where did Pink say #Covid was no longer an issue. I find educating people to the nature of an endemic threat valuable. #CovidIsNotOver @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis
Show threadSamMay 5, 2024

@Pineywoozle @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis

In truth SARS-CoV-2 causing #COVID is panendmic, not just endemic. It isn't like colds or flu ... that come around every now and again like other endemic diseases.

It is still PANDEMIC. But due to its ubiquity, it is also ENDEMIC.

Hence PANENDEMIC. And that is much much worse.

Plus it destroys the immune system, rapidly ages victims, and erases prior immunity to other diseases. and and and and and.

Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote
@samohTmaS I understand the severity of the infection & the potential long term consequences. I just looked up #Panendemic and it really is a better word to describe the current state. Thanks. #Covid #CovidIsNotOver #LongCovid @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis
May 5, 2024 at 7:12amWeb
Show thread Mélani (Melanie) Bjornsdottir (she, ŝi)May 6, 2024
@Pineywoozle @samohTmaS @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Dangerous_beans @Artemis hyperpanendemic
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@melanie Interesting. I just looked up the New Yorker article about Morton, the guy who suggested that as the appropriate term. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/timothy-mortons-hyper-pandemic I agree with his logic for what it is but given how language is currently used Pan-endemic seems to carry more urgency with everyday precautions even if Hyperpanendemic is more accurate. Effective messaging is crucial to lessen the impact. #Covid #CovidIsNoOver @Dangerous_beans @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Timothy Morton’s Hyper-Pandemic

Morgan Meis writes about Timothy Morton, a philosopher of “hyperobjects”—vast, unknowable things that are bigger than ourselves—and what Morton’s views reveal about our time.

The New Yorker
Show thread Mélani (Melanie) Bjornsdottir (she, ŝi)May 6, 2024
@Pineywoozle @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis i thought i was being original. carry on
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@melanie Oh interesting. Did you come up with it on your own? If you did that might indicate that it’s more widespread than I thought. Do you know if Morton is Icelandic? I noticed that your last name was and maybe the usage is disseminating more strongly from that point. I don’t know what the adoption model would be for Icelandic usage to universal use. That would be a fun pattern to investigate. @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Show thread Mélani (Melanie) Bjornsdottir (she, ŝi)May 6, 2024
@Pineywoozle @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis I’m English, not Icelandic. My surname is bastard Norse, and metaphorical.
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@melanie Ah, it’s a common surname in Iceland, I shouldn’t have assumed. My dad’s family is originally from the Dane Law portion of England but has a Norman surname & I always loved how Iceland does its surnames & was disappointed that we got a plain old Norman one lol.The connection of Morton to Björk in the article and the surname made me just assume Iceland. @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Show threadSamMay 6, 2024

@melanie @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Pineywoozle @Artemis

Ah. I see. You clearly get the implications. Not that that helps much, other than to take actions to protect yourself.

But then - to what end? - as society crumbles..

Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@melanie The image above is of people walking on a sidewalk surrounded by objects that are dissolving & dispersing. I could be completely wrong about which word would be the most motivating BTW. I based it on the idea that Morton’s “Hyper” theory of the world isn’t widespread while the notion of a pandemic is. I do think in time his will be the recognized term since it’s more accurate but language & people are funny so who knows. #Covid @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Show thread Mélani (Melanie) Bjornsdottir (she, ŝi)May 6, 2024

@Pineywoozle @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis description wasn’t needed but is appreciated

i thought “hyper-pan-endemic” (panendemic at a high level) was a me-ologism

Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@melanie I think his use of the word hyper has a more ubiquitous connotation. Distribution rather than size I guess. It’ll be interesting to see what language is finally adopted. @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @samohTmaS @Artemis
Show threadSamMay 6, 2024

@Pineywoozle @melanie @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Artemis

That does go to the even larger concern.

This family of viruses is much larger than SARS-CoV-2 and the previous SARS1.

It includes nasty-ass close cousins like MERS, NeoCov, PDF-2180 and the horrific gx_p2v.

It is globally dispersed across many species.

And with humans encroaching everywhere the likelihood of hybridization or species jumping is extremely high - probable even. It is just a matter of time.

Show threadSamMay 6, 2024

@Pineywoozle @melanie @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Artemis @Dangerous_beans

Interesting. Though I am not persuaded that hyper- applies.

SARS-CoV-2 from the human pandemic is now in dozens of other species. It didn't just infect a few individuals (anthroponnoses or reverse zoonoses). It is pandemic in them.

And one of those, some mouse like rodent returned the favor. That was Omicron.

So a better description is I think: poly-panendemic, as it is many interacting endemic pandemics.

Show thread Mélani (Melanie) Bjornsdottir (she, ŝi)May 6, 2024
@samohTmaS @Pineywoozle @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Artemis @Dangerous_beans wow. fuck.
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteMay 6, 2024
@samohTmaS If you read the article you may change your mind. His definition was more about it being dispersed than it being huge. Although the degree of dispersion would make it huge. Like I said to Melanie, it’s going to be interesting to see what wins in the naming department, accuracy or commonality of understanding. @melanie @thestrangelet @pinkdrunkenelephants @Artemis @Dangerous_beans