It's so frustrating to see Microsoft copy inventions from the Linux world and act like they're new. Ads in the start menu? Come on, we had that in Ubuntu back in 2012 already, you're late to the party *again*.

@SylvieLorxu some deep canonical lore i am not aware of

(edit: IT WORKS...CANONICAL AND CANONICAL)

@starfrost In 2012 Canonical added Amazon search results. It was shown by default when searching for anything (even local programs), sending your keypresses to an online server: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/online-shopping-features-arrive-in-ubuntu-12-10

This "feature" was eventually removed.

Online Shopping Feature Arrives in Ubuntu 12.10 - OMG! Ubuntu

Amazon shopping results have been integrated into the Dash of Ubuntu 12.10. The feature comes a day after news that Ubuntu were adding Amazon and Ubuntu One Music web-apps as default items on Unity launcher.

OMG! Ubuntu
@SylvieLorxu horrifying
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@kkarhan @SylvieLorxu @micahflee they didnt even implement it very well
@starfrost @SylvieLorxu @micahflee at least it was easy to yeet, but still, #Shuttleworth and #Canonical / @ubuntu 's reaction at first really pissed off a lot of people for all the right reasons...

@kkarhan
@starfrost @SylvieLorxu @micahflee @ubuntu

I remember that one. Shuttleworth said that lot of people were asking whether they trusted #Canonical with stuff they could send to third parties. "Erm, you DO trust us. We have root."

Idiot. We're doubting you BECAUSE you have root. We could choose a different distro.

It's like you lent your car keys to your friend to bring you something from your car, and s/he ends up driving the car away, saying, "You DO trust me. I have 'key'."

@SylvieLorxu is there anything at all original about Windows?

@Reiddragon @SylvieLorxu

> unique about MSFT

maze have to navigate to open BIOS

@faulkmore @SylvieLorxu modern BIOS/UEFI are a fucking mess

Just to get sleep working on my laptop I had to do an incantation to enable debug settings so I could set sleep to actual fucking sleep instead of that pseudo sleep bullshit Windows does these days
@SylvieLorxu Come on, you expect M$ to be anything but a greedy, self-interested money-hoarding bad actor?
@SylvieLorxu I don't mean this in a moral sense because obviously Canonical / Shuttleworth are inherently bad and exploitative in capitalist terms, but the early marketing of Ubuntu was a masterstroke. I remember installing Ubuntu 6.06 back in the day and it seeming like a philanthropic exercise from an already wealthy person with a video about humanity from Nelson Mandela and everything. Now they feel almost like a Microsoft subsidiary.
@SylvieLorxu @alizasystem Oh that's another reason why I'm glad about nearly never having used Ubuntu.
@SylvieLorxu This is around the time I left Ubuntu and started trying other distros. Ubuntu has been a mess ever since. 6.06 was my first major foray into Linux but when they started trying to commercialize it I went to Debian and eventually landed on Arch.

@SylvieLorxu @korenchkin

To be fair, it's not really new on Windows either. Not sure if that was already introduced with Win8, but Win10 definitely had ads for stuff from Windows Store (like Candy Crush or Disney+) in the start menu

@Doomed_Daniel @SylvieLorxu Even if it was in Windows 8, that would make it October 2012, which is still later than September 2012 …

Not sure we need to take this so seriously, though.

@korenchkin @SylvieLorxu
yeah, TBH I'm just generally confused why everyone acts like ads in the Win startmenu are a new thing, it just happened to be this toot where I had the motivation to start a VM and take a screenshot ;)

@korenchkin @Doomed_Daniel It's more that it's in the news again and I felt like being silly, nothing more. Have to admit though, I completely forgot about the Windows 8 ads (I remember the outrage now but never experienced it myself as the last Windows I used was 7). Good thing is happened to be just later than Ubuntu or my joke would've been ruined ;)

All I really know is that I'm happy to have very little ads in my life, adblockers rule :)

@SylvieLorxu I mean, all Microsoft does is copy, CPM, DOS, Unix, Linux, Mac. Should be used to it by now! I say this as a long time and current Windows user, for accessibility reasons. I don't have a problem with it, but I don't have any illusions about it either. It is pretty much entirely plundered for other OSen.
@SylvieLorxu They are like Musk. Searching around, stealing ideas, hype them and probably screw up.

@SylvieLorxu OH, SNAP*!

*pun intended

@SylvieLorxu @mullet and now they're getting sudo from wish.com