The VergeMicrosoft starts testing ads in the Windows 11 Start menu https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/12/24128640/microsoft-windows-11-start-menu-ads-app-recommendations
Xerz ๐@verge o
Iโm out lol
@verge I wonder when will Microsoft just stop giving any shits and show banner #suggestions inside the browser and regular apps, like those Nintendo web browsers in the early 2000s or most Android brands these days
Nuncio Bitis ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ ๐ต๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ
Mr. Funk E. Dude ๐คทโโ๏ธ@verge The moment that happens I'm switching to Linux full time. Don't care what I lose.
Wiredfire 
@Mrfunkedude @verge if anything like my experience youโll lose basically nothing. I expected to make some trade-offs but they never appeared. I just ended up with a laptop than run a lot better & let me just do what I wanted / needed to without much hassle.
Rose Puckey@Mrfunkedude @verge You don't lose anything, and you can always run pre ad windows on a vm if you really have to.
Kirk
Tofu Musubi
Natsura 
peter
rail [see pinned posts]Of course they'd do that
anubis2814@verge What finally drove me to never use Windows 11
Sam Strong@verge Is Windows a freemium product now?
@SamStrong @verge No, but its about to be classified along with betamax and dodo though.
Tucker McKnight@verge At this rate, Linux is going to hit 10% of the desktop market share way sooner than I ever expected.
Hacker 
@verge Doesn't W10 already have this?
@kunalagrawal @verge Correct, it appears like an app, but it's an app suggestion. Not the end of the world, but we count be frogs in boiling water
๐ ๐ ๐บ ๐๐๐๐@verge thank God I gave up on that hot mess in a dumpster fire on a train wreck five years agoโฆ ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Pฤteris Kriลกjฤnis@verge this is...checks notes....5th time at least they have done that.
@verge Buh Bye Microsoft!
@verge I don't use Microsoft at home, but work is dictating we all go to Windows 11. Complete with the AI that steals the code we're developing so Microsoft can compete with us on medical devices.
Nice, huh?
Nice, huh?
@RosePuckey @Nuncio @verge I think (hope?) for work they'll be able to turn them off via group policy
Siddhesh Gunjal@verge one more thing added into the list named "why avoid windows"
Jake Tyers
smxi@verge typical corporate BS, windows market share has been in slow steady decline for years now, no growth to speak of, so to get those bonuses you have to think of some way to generate new income, and that means ads.
I saw the writing on the wall the first time I saw and ran XP, and was on #GNU / #Linux by the end of 2005, thus totally missing debacles like Vista and Windows 8.
You get spoiled running an OS made by and for engineers. Cost is weak in areas those engineers don't care about.
Keith Bรถhler@keithnator3000 @verge I was coming from Windows 2000, which I thought was excellent. XP was slow, cludgy, ugly, and handled multitasking like molasses. Incredibly badly engineered. no idea what they broke from windows 2000 to achieve that. The second I saw xp I knew I was dumping windows eventually, though it took #linux a few more years to get user friendly enough for my tech level. I was a sys admin back then so the changes were obvious to me.
@keithnator3000 @verge the one memory of xp that stands out because it hit me every time I would boot a client machine was xp to create the illusion of starting fast would pop up what was essentially a screenshot of the desktop gui until the actual desktop finished loading. Which would take 30 to 60 seconds more before you could actually interact with the desktop. That's an example of cludge done to hide how slow it was. Vista on other hand I simply thought was literally broken, super slow boot
HoseanRCWindows devs work on Windows because of the money
Linux devs don't get paid, but pay with their love to the projects
This is how you know what is ACTUALLY good!
It's like working and dancing to a relaxing music at the same time, or work with high stress.
The result of stressed development is something that works, but we all know, if you put love in the development, people will love your creation.
@HoseanRC while many #FreeSoftware devs work for little, most #linux kernel devs get paid. Kernel project has a sort of rule: if you want the kernel to handle your hardware/issues, you should hire a kernel dev. But shoddy code comes anywhere people get paid to do stuff they don't care about, or are not given time to do right.
I know for me, my formula is roughly 10/1 time in free software code/commercial code. Free: is this as good as I can make it? No more ideas? Non free: does it work?
ZeStig 
@verge I expected this from these morons