Folks, I’m going to ask you to please consider that over 31,000 people – including over 13,000 children – have already been murdered by Israel in the last handful of months before stating that the person from your own country that was just murdered by Israel is your red line or the point where you think Israel’s genocide has finally gone too far. I really need you to understand that Palestinians are people too.
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@aral What a nonsense, dear fellow user!
Who on earth denies that Palestinians suffer from a humanitarian catastrophe, which should be ended as soon as possible.
But not all of us draw the conclusions, you suppose.
I am conviced that fully destroying hamas terror will be the beginning of a time with much better life conditions for Palastinian people.
It's not IL the culprit of a genocide. And by the way: the Israelis took your proposal literally. The October massacre was taken as a Red Line.
@finche @aral Who on Earth? Maybe the IL government? The ones who helped create and funded Hamas in the first place? The ones who indiscriminately murdered civilians for decades?
Should I remind you that after the 2014 "War on Hamas", Netanyahu transfered financial aid to Hamas so they can destabilize the region?
You haven't, because I am in the know of these points.
But things evolve and now I really want IL to finish terror hamas and then a perspective for all people living there must be found.
In my humble opinion it's not the IL claim of a puppet state housing Palastinians. And it's neither the two state solution favoured by Biden nor the All-Palastinian state from the river to the sea.
But I can't see any just solution at present. Do you?
@finche @aral Terror groups are the embodiment of extremist ideas. Extremist ideas are born from struggle. A population that is not struggling will not be open to such ideas.
Hamas would not exist if there wouldn't be people willing to go to extreme measures to make a change. There are no terror groups in countries like Germany, Canada, etc, because the citizens there are not desperate. The ones in Gaza are.
Halting the occupation and the indiscriminate murders would be a very simple 1st step
@arh @aral Hello, fellow user,
thks for sharing.
As for the terrorists groups:
Of course there is terrorism in Europe. too, but there is no state run by a terrorist group. Don't make a mistake here. But the situation isn't equal in any way.
Maybe the problems to be dealt with in the Middle East are somewhat more complex than stated up to now, hm?
Maybe we have to go back into the outphasing British Mandate, the UN Resolution followed by the declaration of Israeli statehood and the war.
Pardon, hasbara?
I took the liberty to answer a toot because feeling I am opposed.
Do you want to shut me up? Nope. dude.
That's too much, dude. In no way I am associated with the IL government and I am not running a business spreading information.
You are right. Being involved since October I didn't post here in the public.
And I am not sure I will do on a regular basis if there are uneducated haters to deal with.
@Daveosaurus @aral :) Dear friend, pls. fence your desire to bring justice to all people and fight the evil:)
Formally you aren't right because of Hamas being listed as terror organization in opposite to Likud beeing a (far right) political party.
So what should we do? Should we tell the deaths on both sides?
I don't think that way we may proceed. We will battle for ever without any achievement for the people there. I really would wish that.
@Daveosaurus @aral I don't want to waste our precious time with quarreling to no avail.
We all should do so: looking at the truth. So I fully agree.
I just can't.
It's one of the few things dad and I agree on is the utter shit cuntery of it all.
I almost think world leaders are sitting around thinking " well if we do something now, how do we defend having waited so long"
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