nathans 

Enshittification at work folks

#Tech #HP #Enshittification

Mar 25, 2024 at 12:09amWeb
Show threadmonkee Mar 25, 2024
@nathans

We (where i work) wait for our HP to run out of ink... then that machine from hell will literally be thrown out of the Window as revenge for all the frustrations he caused.

bought for the extra big paper-tray - which broke after weeks - a known flaw... got replace a couple of times...

Broke since forever now, so tiny paper-feed it is...

Bonus: Shitty Scanner:
The feeder on the Scanner needs manual help 50% of the time. The 50% of the time it does work - it manages to grab multiple sheets (so you may miss some)

Its one of their "Professional" Models.

die #HP Printer DIE!
Show threadnathans Mar 25, 2024

@mp I wish we would do that with all of the HP printers at my work.

About 90% of our printers are HP and they have constant issues

Show threadmonkee Mar 25, 2024
@nathans If i remember i'll share pictures once it's ready to go out of the window... I'll film ​​ My friend and boss will probably want to throw it ​​ i'm only there one day a week ​​
Show threadmonkee Mar 25, 2024
@nathans #HP is a horrible company when it comes to printers... They invented all the awful shit like "expiry date chips" on ink cartridges and such...

They invented a lot of stuff to limit the user and keep control over the printer you bought from them.
Show threadgoedelchenMar 25, 2024
@mp @nathans The only companies, which aren't horrible when it comes to printers, are those who don't produce / sell printers.
Show threadmonkee Mar 25, 2024
@goedelchen @nathans There is less awful ones. Like the few that produce printers with Ink-Tanks instead of these horrible, horrible cartridges from hell.
Show threadFábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕Mar 25, 2024

@mp @nathans I'm sad that is too difficult to find a good printer here in Brazil. Normally you are limited on HP and Epson (and Brother for Laser)

I have nothing to complain on my actual HP, but I'm thinking seriously on replace it.

Show threadMigrated to @[email protected] 🏳️‍🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️‍🌈Mar 25, 2024
@fabiocosta0305 @mp @nathans I’ve heard good stuff about Brother, are their printers not available in Brazil?
Show threadFábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕Mar 25, 2024

@luana @mp @nathans very few... Specially multifunctional deskjets.

On Laser,there's another history

Show threadnathans Mar 25, 2024
@mp I'd love to see that honestly
Show threadmonkee Mar 25, 2024
@nathans Fucking Printer smelled our plan and that last cartridge lasts like forever ​​
Show threadFredPlus10Mar 25, 2024
@mp @nathans I am following you now just to see the reenactment of this gif 😉
Show threadSaager MhatreMar 25, 2024
@mp @nathans
Show threadSyulangMar 25, 2024

@mp @nathans We had an employee laptop keyboard fail. They refused to fix under warranty as more than three keys were broken. We ordered a hundred laptops at $1500 a throw.

I reccomend Lenovo for future fleet purchases. They're also shit, but a more tolerable kind of shit.

Show threadAlanMar 25, 2024
@Syulang @mp @nathans I have been recommending no to buying any Hp tech products for years - especially anything consumer grade.
Show threadEva MikkonenMar 25, 2024
@mp @nathans [insert office space printer scene]
Show threadDanuMar 25, 2024
@mp @nathans I once got a used HP printer/scanner for free and it was so bad that I threw it away again. It was possible for the scanner to brick itself when you accidentally switched in scanner software from feed mode to flatbed or something like that without reset. A gear rack then moved out of the range of the gear and you needed to partly disassemble the printer to fix it. Also everything was out of easy breakable plastic. What a piece of shit
Show threadiam-py-testMar 25, 2024
@nathans Would you mind sharing a link to the original post?
I am unable to locate it on that user's account.
Show threadnathans Mar 25, 2024
@iampytest1 https://twitter.com/Wendigoon8/status/1549839412531531780
Wendigoon (@Wendigoon8) on X

Our HP printer hasn’t been working for a month and every manner of troubleshooting, resets, changing ink cartridges, didn’t seem to work. After calling HP, they said the debit card on file had expired so they manually disabled our printer. In unrelated news, I’m now radicalized

X (formerly Twitter)
Show threadiam-py-testMar 25, 2024
@nathans Thanks
Show threadnathans Mar 25, 2024
@iampytest1 no problem
Show threadVeeMar 25, 2024
@nathans Whuuuut?! No way.
Show threadPatrick Morris MillerMar 25, 2024
@nathans HP is the Devil.
Show threadBelakorMar 25, 2024

@nathans It's amazing to me how HP went from the leader in printers to absolute dumpster tier.

Then again, it amazes me how HP went from a name synonymous with quality engineering to just another name in the mix of manufacturers pushing out absolute tat.

Show threadThe Long TailMar 25, 2024
@nurglerider @nathans I suspect it was a similar story to Boing.
Show threadDec [{()}]Mar 28, 2024

@nurglerider @nathans
HP managed to sell off the dec .com domain name (one of the oldest .com domains) without informing HP Labs (formerly Digital Equipment's Systems Research Center, Palo Alto) of the domain auction.
HP Labs were still running widely-used servers that depended on the dec .com domain, such as uucp-gw-1.pa.dec .com

I know this because I was the first to tell anyone in HP Labs about the loss of DNS service.

Show threadBelakorMar 28, 2024
@dec23k @nathans Sounds about right. There was similar nonsense done when I was at HP for year (contract). The sad thing was the guys I worked with were all top notch engineers but mgmt wasn't interested in top notch engineering, just the bare minimum to scrape as much cash from the consumer as possible.
Show threadMajikalMonkey2000Mar 25, 2024
@nathans This is probably a good situation for open hardware to take over. But then you'd need an open ink cartridge standard that ink sellers would use. I wonder if this already exists and I'm just ignorant to it.
Show threadCooper AstronautMar 25, 2024
@MajikalMonkey2000 @nathans I can't speak on the Open Hardware Community, but I still have my original Epson Ecotank Inkjet printer, and barring a few cleaning disassemblies, has been stilling going strong.
Show threadMajikalMonkey2000Mar 25, 2024
@copperastronaut That's pretty awesome, let's hope the more user-respecting hardware keeps going for a while longer.
Show threadFlorian IdelbergerMar 28, 2024
@MajikalMonkey2000 @nathans this exists by refilling the cartridges instead of replacing them. Though ideally this is better when the cartridge does not contain the print head as I think it does sometimes.
Show threadAskPippa🇨🇦Mar 25, 2024
@nathans I had an HP laser printer for years and it was a real workhorse. And the printer cartridge lasted forever. But it couldn't handle the increased data modern print files started having, etc.. So, finally had to part with it. It's replacement isn't half as good and the cartridge doesn't last as long. Often, old tech is just built better. We still have a working vacuum cleaner my mom bought in the 1960s! We now use it more as shop vac -- it's that solid!
Show threadMichael VilainMar 25, 2024

@nathans My 90yo neighbor called me and asked if I could help her because her printer stopped working.

"Who made it?" I asked

"Epson" she said.

"I'll be right over. If you have the manual, I'd like to see it." I sighed with relief.

She didn't. But I got it working just by using the front panel and running the cartridge cleaning cycle a couple times.

I didn't relish telling her to throw out her printer and buy a new one, although I did mention that a $100 Brother laser printer would probably be less trouble.

Show threadZackMar 25, 2024
@nathans I've heard that Brother printers are free of this BS
Show threadMystery Babylon Mar 25, 2024
@nathans I'm gonna say, HP printers have taken enshittification to the next level, unprompted.
Show threadAphrodite (recharging)Mar 25, 2024

@nathans

and this is why the printer I need to have at home is a Brother.

Damn thing works without complaint.

Show threadMikel Forcada EA5IYL / N7EESMar 25, 2024
@Aphrodite @nathans Bought one myself. Works well.
Show threadLance, Enjoying Copious PollenMar 25, 2024
@Aphrodite @nathans Brother is the way. We got rid of all our inkjet printers several years ago.
Show threadBenoît JonesMar 25, 2024

@nathans
We got an Epson Ecotank inkjet printer a couple of years ago and have had zero problems. Not a single ink blockage, and the big ink tanks last for ages before they need refilling.

Costs more up front but you'll save a fortune not having to buy cartridges.

Show threadGnomigutMar 25, 2024

@nathans

I guess you all already know that, but since no one stated the obvious here I will:

You know what „HP“ does stand for, right?

„How Painful“…

Show threadRhinos Worry Me has movedMar 25, 2024

@nathans

"Unauthorized Bread" by Cory Doctorow

The story of a woman pushed to near-madness and a life of crime by her "smart" toaster.

The first short story in the "Radicalized" book.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wandyezj/reference/master/unauthorized-bread.pdf

Show threadGraham PalmerMar 25, 2024
@nathans My last HP printer went out with the hard rubbish some years ago!
Show threadschrotthaufenMar 25, 2024
@nathans @aral The last HP printer that doesn’t suck is a black and white only laser printer from the last millennium.
Show threadMarkNWMar 25, 2024
@nathans I've been using an Oki laser printer for some years, very happy with it - easy to maintain and clean, compatible toner is cheap - and best of all, drums and belt are treated as consumables, so replacements are affordable - unlike other makes I've had, where it was cheaper to replace the entire printer
Show threadNorbi PetiMar 25, 2024
@nathans this is my fav article about printers now: https://www.theverge.com/23642073/best-printer-2023-brother-laser-wi-fi-its-fine
Still using an HP printer but thankfully none of that subscription bs for now.
Best printer 2023: just buy this Brother laser printer everyone has, it’s fine

The best printer to buy is the one that works without you needing to think about it or subscribe to some nonsense ink refill thing. For most people, that’s the Brother HL-L2305W or something like the MFC-L2750DW that adds a scanner.

The Verge
Show threadSenil888 Mar 27, 2024
@norbipeti @nathans literally the best article. I think I have a comparable printer to the one they talk about. And the only reason I have it is that the old brother later printer my dad gave to me started jamming for some reason and I didn't have the time or money to figure out why and track down any potential parts for what I think was a mid to late 2000's laser printer.

take decent care of them and they can last for fucking every.
Show threadNafeon (Backup Account)Mar 27, 2024
@norbipeti @nathans thank you for finding that article again. I had 3 chatters in der last week about printers, hahaha
Show threadSebi ✓Mar 27, 2024
@NafiTheBear @norbipeti @nathans Yeah - that checks out. Sadly mine has some minor blind spots on the role. But its not to bad and probably could be replaced.
HP should burn for such BS!
Show threadagile_otterMar 25, 2024
@nathans What service did they sign up for that required the company to have the ABILITY to extract money from their accounts at all times, not just during a purchase of supplies or service?
Is this a true story?
Show threadAlison MeeksMar 25, 2024
@nathans Buying the Epson with Ecotank system was the best decision I’ve ever made in inkjet printers. Bugger off tiny expensive little cartridges.
Show threadHolyWeekWax 🌿Mar 25, 2024
@alison @nathans this
Show threadUzi BobuziMar 25, 2024
@nathans I had to ditch HP and then Brother (for not allowing non-Brother ink cartridges and using up tons of color ink for black and white printing) and went with a Pantum, which works with my Linux system and is free of all that garbage that US companies are forcing on us.
Show threadSnep Mar 25, 2024
@nathans And HP even confirmed that's by design in the comments. You cannot print with the *already filled*, *already installed* Instant Ink cartridges in your printer when there's a payment issue. Whoa. I knew HP was shit, but *that much*?...
Show thread(Matthew)=> 🏳️‍🌈🇿🇦🎮💻📖Mar 25, 2024

@nathans Stuff like this makes me feel like a luddite. I want a car without a ridiculous smart panel, I want a printer that just prints and nothing else, I want lights that use a physical switch to turn on and off, I want a fridge that keeps things cold and nothing else, and I want a microwave that heats things up and nothing else.

Very few of my devices need to network. Just do your job, comrade.

Show threadurxMar 25, 2024
@nathans I already am since 15 years, when HP stopped providing driver updates for the next OS release for a perfectly fine printer. Proposed solution : Hardware upgrade...
Show threadurxMar 25, 2024
@nathans re https://fosstodon.org/@JoeRess/112101120647583833
Joe Ressington (@[email protected])

Everyone said get a Brother printer so I bought a 3-in-1 scanner and printer. There seems to be something wrong with it though. I plugged it into a Linux laptop, opened a document, pressed print, selected the printer, and it printed. Then I opened simple-scan, pressed scan, and it scanned. This isn't how printers and scanners are supposed to work. Where do I install the drivers that don't work properly etc? This was no fun. I demand a refund.

Fosstodon
Show threadDemocracy Dies in DumbassMar 25, 2024

@nathans

NEVER

BUY

HP

ANYTHING

Show threadFoppe de HaanMar 25, 2024
@nathans just buy an old LaserJet, eg a clj 2500, and connect it to a simple Linux installation configured as a network vlan only connected printing service.
Show threadPaul WagenseilMar 25, 2024
@nathans HP printers are nothing but frustration and greed. Go with Brother and you'll never go back.
Show threadBytebro 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 🇬🇱Mar 25, 2024
@nathans My printer is an ancient colour HP Deskjet, and as long as I can still get ink for it I dare not upgrade, as I'll inevitably end up with one of those enshittified 'rental' printers, "up with which I shall not put." 🙂