Lauren Weinstein
Matt Blaze@lauren I'm not sure I understand the objection. Why should I care, as a reader, what platform someone I follow uses to post, or, as a poster, what platform someone who wants to follow me reads me on?
@mattblaze That you don't understand is why Zuck and friends are getting such a laugh.
@lauren Yes, you're right. I don't understand. I'm not trying to be difficult. I honestly don't understand!
Joe ❌👑@mattblaze @lauren There is no push mechanism. If anything from Threads shows up here, it is because someone from here is following someone on Threads, or because someone boosts the content. There is nothing that gives Zuck the power to push unsolicited stuff into the Fediverse, the way he does on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads.
@mattblaze @not2b Meta has a clear and present financial motive to push as much as possible (and boost engagement on those posts) -- and will always be happy to spew a pipeline of sewage toward Mastodon (where a financial motive doesn't exist for all practical purposes) for anyone who likes to swallow deeply of such. Meta will NEVER be willing to permit a flow back from Mastodon/Fediverse that isn't heavily restricted and subject to arbitrary cutoffs, especially if content threatens Meta's financial interests. Clear enough for a starting point?
@mattblaze @not2b That depends. If you're ethically comfortable with helping such an entity profit (or at least attempt to profit) off the work of Mastodon/Fediverse sites -- and offering nothing in return in terms of comparable value -- then that's a personal ethical decision. Presumably you can plug your ears to avoid hearing Zuck's laughter!
@mattblaze @not2b Not at all. I didn't say you were being unethical. I said you have to decide if your ethics are compatible with the situation. Apparently they are.
Norman Wilson@lauren @mattblaze @not2b That you sound, frankly, cut from the Zuckermusk mold here. I've known you (far more distantly than Matt) for long enough to wonder if you really want that.
Francisca Sinn@lauren Holy smokes that’s an outrageously aggressive answer to what seems a very genuine question. Enough that I’m no longer interested in anything else you might have to say. Unfollowed and muted.
@lauren @mattblaze @not2b But if the Zuckerbuggers really want to profit off Mastodon, aren't there other easy ways to do it? e.g. they could make their own node to mask the link, and yes, others could defed it, but it becomes a whackamole game.
Thom@mattblaze @lauren @not2b I don't fully understand myself, but my default is that on average Meta does nothing that doesn't benefit it's shareholders, they do not have the common good as a core value and they are one of the prime practioners of enshittification. I may not fully grasp why yet, but the less involvement with them the better.
@mattblaze @lauren @not2b I see how it will affect my own experience: it will enable communication with a few good people I know who, for reasons I don't comprehend, don't mind Zuckworld, and for reasons I do get, don't grok or don't like Mastodon.
Lou Katz@oclsc @mattblaze @lauren @not2b There you go with your own pesky "free will" argument again. How can you be politically pure then? Don't you know that gluten-containing bio-engineered high-fructose sugar is hazardous to your health?
@lou @mattblaze @lauren @not2b It doesn't matter. Lauren has blocked me, so I'm an unperson. Nobody can see me plotting against the Ethically Proper Revolution.
The Gray Witch
Kevin Karhan 
@lauren @mattblaze @not2b not only that but #NSAbook / #StasiBook (lets be honest and not allow them to make us ignore their vital contributions to #PRISM among other #Enshittification|s!) have legally unacceptable Terms they force upon,others, they don't respect the concept of #consent or refusal to provide it (see their illegal "#ShadowProfiles") and they're platforming illegal #hatespeech...
That alone are solid reasons why I can't and won't use them even if I wanted to...
Fluffy Kitty Cat@lauren @mattblaze @not2b their busniess model also depends on.captive audiences to squeeze. Federation let's people leave then an instance gets nasty. Think they'd let people flee here when threads goes south?
@fluffykittycat @mattblaze @not2b Note though that the lack of post portability on Mastodon is a serious detriment to active users actually migrating to different instances.