Among these European #train lines to be improved, notice Vienna-#Budapest-Western Romania. Why not to #Bucharest?

It turns out that 20% of the population in Oradea is of Hungarian origin, and 8% of that of Arad.

This improved train line, proposed by the Hungarian Ministry of Transport, aims at better connecting Budapest with the #Hungarian communities in Romania.

1.1 million people living in #Romania are Hungarian. Welcome to "Hungarians in the Carpathians"

https://europeanperspective.substack.com/p/hungarians-in-the-carpathians-european

@trains

Hungarians in the Carpathians (European minorities, chapter 1)

The rearrangement of national borders after World War I still affects the identity feelings of the people living in the region today.

The European Perspective

1.1 million people living in #Romania declare themselves Hungarian. Why is this, and where are they?

In two Romanian regions, Hungarians are a majority (74 & 85% of the pop.)

They're in #Transylvania, in the middle of the #Carpathians. This mountain range divides the Romanian territory.

These Hungarian communities have lived here since this area was part of the Kingdom of Hungary

Itโ€™s not the only case. After WWI, #Hungary lost 2/3 of its former territory.

From: https://europeanperspective.substack.com/p/hungarians-in-the-carpathians-european

Hungarians in the Carpathians (European minorities, chapter 1)

The rearrangement of national borders after World War I still affects the identity feelings of the people living in the region today.

The European Perspective

How was it to grow as a Hungarian in #Romania? I talked with Gabor, 40, from #Transylvania

His grandparents never moved, they were born in #Hungary. But borders did, and that area is now Romania

As a kid, Gabor spoke better Romanian than his grandparents, who struggled to learn. However, the majority of the population of Transylvania has been Romanian since the 19th century

"As kids, we learned each other's language just by playing together. Sports clubs were mixed"

https://europeanperspective.substack.com/p/hungarians-in-the-carpathians-european

Hungarians in the Carpathians (European minorities, chapter 1)

The rearrangement of national borders after World War I still affects the identity feelings of the people living in the region today.

The European Perspective

Romanians see #Transylvania very differently from Hungarians

105 y. ago, the modern Romanian state was created when Transylvania was added. A time for celebration!

But for #Hungary, the loss of this territory (and others) meant the end of the Kingdom: it's a time of mourning

Relations between the countries are still difficult. Since #Romania entered the EU in 2007 there haven't been bilateral talks

How can we explain the current conflict? We'll see tomorrow

Or here: https://europeanperspective.substack.com/p/hungarians-in-the-carpathians-european

Hungarians in the Carpathians (European minorities, chapter 1)

The rearrangement of national borders after World War I still affects the identity feelings of the people living in the region today.

The European Perspective

How to explain the conflict between #Hungary and #Romania about #Transylvania? As an *outsider*, I think of it as a cycle

1) Hungarian populations in Romania complain
Romanian law says that a minority above 20% is entitled to special language rights. This is not always implemented

2) Hungary intervenes.
It has a national plan to support Hungarians abroad. Hungary pursues "unification of the nation" (beyond borders). It funds churches, sports and media outlets for Hungarians outside Hungary. They issued passports for the Hungarian minority abroad, and with them, the right to vote.

At this moment, we have "a system in which Hungarians can live their life as it would be in Romania, but in Hungary" (quoted from researcher Tamรกs Kiss).

3) Romania gets suspicious
Romanian law is in favour of minorities. Some of the Hungarian-speaking venues are even funded by the Romanian state (e.g. the Hungarian theatre of Cluj). Isn't it sufficient?
Romania is concerned by the rhetoric of "unification of the Hungarian nation".

4) Way in for nationalism and populism

Hungarian players in the Romanian football league are insulted. The Romanian president once accused Hungary of wanting to reclaim Transylvania. From Hungary, they retorted: "we never said Transylvania was Romanian".

Politicians behaving undiplomatically create a snowball effect in society. This reinforces step 1: Hungarians complain that their situation is not good.

@rafa_font Orbรกn doesn't behave "undiplomatically", he full on spews out irredentist propaganda towards all neighbours, not just Romania, feeding failed empire nostalgia in an impoverished country he robbed blind.

@Veza85UE On the draft, I received 2 pieces of feedback

- That I was being too soft with Orbรกn, downplaying his intentions.

- That calling Hungarian policy "irredentist" was incorrect: there was no intention to alter borders

Then, I checked the official policy. Found: "unite the nation (despite the borders)". I find it ambiguous and provocative, while conveying a real feeling of (part of?) the population: "unite all Hungarians"

Haven't fully addressed your comment, though. What do you think?

@rafa_font I'm honestly no expert, but it's enough to see how he's been treating one neighbour (Ukraine) to understand what role his post-imperial nostalgia politics play in his kleptocracy. It's grift all the way down which is the angle under which I agree with criticism no.1. Of course, his problem re: no. 2 is that even if it were more than pure LARP, his cronyism and corruption have led to most EU neighbours leapfrogging Hungary in wealth and standing in the EU.

@rafa_font His once poorer (MUCH poorer in Romania's case) neighbours now laugh at him. He's going to change borders? Him and whose army? His wealthier neighbours have not only better economies but also powerful friends, some of whom have troops stationed nearby. They're at the table, while Orbรกn goes for potty breaks.

His impotent sabre-rattling for domestic consumption isn't all that impressive seen from abroad, is what I'm saying, though it's toxic in its own right for Hungary itself.

@Veza85UE Thanks!

He's not going to change borders. But that's not his goal, I think.

I see the following:

- A real feeling of unity among Hungarians across borders (my focus in the article)

- Using it, Orbรกn trolls the neighbours with words like "unite the nation". And his neighbours are biting the bait! (not my focus, just scratched it)

- But, it's not about really changing the borders (so, it's "incorrect" to accuse them of irredentism). It's for "domestic consumption" as you mention.

@Veza85UE About Ukraine: continuously, Orbรกn makes it difficult for the EU to unanimously support Ukraine.

Many times, the excuse is "how Ukraine treats the Hungarian minority".

There might be cases in which this mistreatment happens. I think we (as EU citizens) should be aware of this, know the reality of the Hungarian minorities, be sure there's no mistreatment, and thus remove this excuse for Hungary not to support Ukraine.

@Veza85UE An anecdote about this that I came across the other day reading "The Counteroffensive" by Tim Mak.

It's about comedians in Kyiv making fun of Zakaparttia:
https://www.counteroffensive.news/p/we-could-all-use-a-laugh

There are two jokes about the area. I see them with a different perspective since knowing about the topic on more depth.

We could all use a laugh

The dark art of comedy in wartime Ukraine: what was funny and isnโ€™t anymore? Once serious but now hilarious? In reporterโ€™s notebook: Oksana mulls over a statue for an executed Ukrainian soldier.

The Counteroffensive with Tim Mak
@rafa_font Thanks, that's a surprisingly interesting article for someone like me who can't stand stand-up. Ukraine is a candidate for EU accession, therefore undergoing the same process current EU members in the area did regarding minority rights. Romania manages to negotiate this topic with Ukraine without licking the Kremlin boot. I'd be wary of giving Hungarians a special totem in this respect because of "unity feels" across borders. That discourse doesn't appear organically, it has history.

@rafa_font Do the warm fuzzies uwu "unity" apply to my Hungarian friends in Belgium, Spain or Sweden who've had to flee a country Orban's made unlivable for them or is it reserved for his votes-for-passports (of what is now a poorer country than the one they live in) scheme for these types:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Ditr%C4%83u_xenophobic_incident

tldr: I reject the notion that blood and soil ethnonationalism is somehow respectable because of the blood and soil ethnonationalists' "feelings".

2020 Ditrฤƒu xenophobic incident - Wikipedia

@Veza85UE In the research that led to the article I gathered info from 5 Hungarians, 3 of which living outside Hungary. This might well be a small and biased sample (due to the limitations of my own reporting capabilities).

Do you think we could gather the point of view of your Hungarian friends about my article? It would be very valuable feedback.

@rafa_font I can ask, though I know already that the 1 in Spain is unlikely to respond tbh. But we'll see what the Brussels-based friend thinks.
(They're not a diverse sample tbh, one's gay and fled after the police refused to do anything about the thugs who tried to murder him, not particularly enclined to nationalism and "unity".)
Is there any Mastodon instance/group where you might find some interested readers closer to the topic?