You kids and your "USB-C."

#GenX #tech #retrotech

Well that blew up like a smartphone battery plugged into a power brick with the wrong mA specification! Muting now. :)
@corbden
<laughs in boomer>

@Jason844 #2 is always going to come out looking like #3 or #4 unless you tape them together!

This was more my lane:

@corbden @Jason844 Exactly why I am no longer allowed to run data rooms.
@corbden @Jason844 You'd be flayed alive for that in a temporary sound installation.

@Jason844 @corbden

"This is what starship designers call 'easy access'."

@Jason844 @corbden
There must be
Fifty ways
To splice your cable
@corbden I can't remember what Hercules and CGA were like, but I guess they shared the same pin layout with VGA/SVGA.
@M0KHR IIRC, at least CGA and EGA did. All of those monitors and video cards were backwards compatible. I even had a computer that was black and white (16-greys). I have no idea what they called that. But it used the same port.

@corbden @M0KHR As far as I understand it,, VGA/SVGA (analogue) isn't inherently backward compatible with CGA and EGA (digital), though I'm sure most manufacturers in the transition years made an effort to support both.

I picked up a monitor recently that has an odd one: E8M EIAJ. Confusingly used for both bidirectional composite AV on some early camcorders and VCRs, and digital RGBI on a few early computers. Wild.

@corbden @M0KHR
As I recall, CGA was composite/coax (for my amber monitor), or a 9-pin D connector (for the actual colour CGA). My graphics card had both.
I never had an EGA monitor.
@M0KHR @corbden CGA/EGA was DB9. VGA graduated to 15 pins.
@corbden I know it's really a collection of different photos, but I choose to believe that this is a backplane of one awesome computer
@corbden
You forgot the 10base2 BNC connectors and the 15-pin AUI connector for ethernet.
Oh, and that funny one on the back of a soundcard that carried joystick and MIDI.
😜
@TheLancashireman @corbden 6 down /2 across gets you AUI/MIDI.
@pooserville @TheLancashireman @corbden but that’s not actually AUI, has screw locks instead of the slider
@rfc6919 @TheLancashireman @corbden Good catch. It's been a hot minute since I used AUI. (I was a Mac guy so AAUI was more my speed.)
@TheLancashireman @corbden oh shit forgot about the 15 pin Aui !!!!
@corbden well at least back in my days you'd know what was a port just by looking at it. Today with USB C you don't know what speed and wattage it can do; can it do alt modes and which ones; and there is a goddamn chip at each end of the cable 🤣

@jpetazzo @corbden Except not really. A DB25 could be serial, parallel, EPP, SPP, ECP, SCSI, external floppy drive or some other proprietary thing.

People have a lot of rose-tinted glasses about how things used to be, USB-C is great.

@corbden Where do I plug this in?
@scottmichaud Looks like one of the serial ports to me! The little one! Be sure to set your IRQs!
@corbden Game port. Found on a bunch of sound cards, because two-in-one "save a slot" marketing.
@scottmichaud @corbden Pretty sure I saw a card once (probably 5150 era) that had a DB9 and a DB25, but it wasn't two serial ports. It was a MDA (or perhaps CGA) video port and a serial port. Totally not confusing.
@scottmichaud @corbden Aaah yes, game ports on sound cards. That was weird.
@corbden I've had all these except Surround Sound, and used most but probably not the parallel printer port. And yes, I do have some coax Ethernet cable on my desk. Why do you ask?
@corbden tut - you could do an infographic that size on SCSI variants alone :)
@choobs @corbden to say nothing of fibre channel / opto couplers
@corbden Now I'm wondering about why most laptop keyboards show up as "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" on Linux
@corbden To be brutally honest though… USB-C basically is „all of these but over a connector that looks the same and with cables that have violently different properties despite having the same connector“. Hell, even each device behaves in an unpredictable way.
@corbden There is no greater evidence that a port will disappear from usage than when I buy an audio interface that uses it.
@corbden where’s the DB13W3 video connector? A workstation classic.

@electropict

The fuck is that thing??

@aardvark179

@corbden @aardvark179

It’s an HD15 to 13w3 display adaptor cable I used to use to connect a KVM box to a big monitor.

(There were different kinds of 13w3; some were Sun, some SGI, and one or the other was also used by Apple; they had different pins and I forget the differences, but all had the three shielded coaxial wires and miniature sockets for video signals.  The extra stability mattered back then.)

@electropict @corbden yeah, they varied on how sync signals were sent and things like that. I had a couple of DB13W3 to 5xBNC cables back when BNCs were what you'd find on the back of big colour displays and DB13W3s were what you found on Sun graphics cards.
@corbden When I do the average online purity test, I tend to come out as almost tediously pure. Not this one though. Heck, I still have a screen somewhere which only has an ADC cable.

@corbden

Back in the dark old days before Arduino you had to twiddle the 8 twiddleable pins on the Parallel Port... and hope you didn't twiddle something you twerent supposed to...

@corbden what about IEEE-488 GPIB? I spent years programming software for instruments on GPIB.

@corbden I feel like it I spend a few minutes down in the workshop I could find a cable for most of these ...

Well, perhaps not the old firewire ones ... but sadly pretty much all of the others ...

@corbden I’m fairly certain I have most of these in a box in my garage.
@corbden I still have cables and/or adapters for at least half of those…
@corbden like so many others, I can’t decide whether to be excited or depressed by the number of these I’ve used over the years (and until very recently, still had cables for).
And there’s a lot of them I still use.
@peteralee @corbden I agree. I think I’m especially ashamed that I’ve never used the optical port. 😏
@dxzdb @corbden the Toslink one? (Always thought it was a peculiar name!) I’m still using that one to connect my Bose sound system to my AppleTV.

@peteralee @corbden Yeah that one - I don't think I ever knew it was called that.

Enjoy it while you can because that's gone off of all the new AppleTV’s. The new remote find feature might be worth upgrading just by itself.

@dxzdb @corbden thanks for pointing that out- I’d missed the fact they’d dropped the Toslink in the latest generation. ☹️
I bought a new remote recently which has the Find My Remote capability and you’re right- it’s excellent!
@corbden i had to deal with this when i was younger, not because it was a while ago, but because all the devices i had were outdated

@corbden i had an adb modem. something like "phlinx"... it was cool. you could program it to make noises and play the session over the computer speaker so i made a hypercard app that would dial my bank and had all the different phone-bank functions programmed in. the only thing missing was any money in my account to actually manage.

EDIT: found the modem: "Teleport" from Global Village. "phlynx" must have been something else from around that time.
https://tidbits.com/1991/09/23/teleport-capabilities/

TelePort Capabilities - TidBITS

The coolest Macintosh telecommunications gadget is the TelePort modem from Global Village Communications. Global Village has created a small, unobtrusive modem that doesn't need a power cord and won't even take up one of your serial ports

TidBITS
@corbden What's going on with the USB 3.0? 😅
@elfwink @corbden it should look a lot like usb A but blue.

@Methylzero @corbden oh that! I have a bunch of drives that use that😖

I think we’ve added about another row

GPIB, MIDI, BNC, XLR…

@dxzdb @corbden Heh, even some smartphones used it! The Galaxy S5 could even emit video from it via MHL.