@specked @Oeneus β€œA land without a people for a people without a land.”

but wait, there’s people there?! lol

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#History #Palestine

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It is funny that your source should not travel further back in time, to at least include the time of the #Hittites and #Ramesses II, as the indicisive #BattleOfKadesh led to the first known peace treaty in 1274 BCE.
That would have been a fitting ending.

BTW, I went even further back in time until the beginning of humanity.

If you ignore the fact that early humans crossed from #Africa (and probably the...

https://www.worldhistory.org/Ramesses_II/

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Ramesses II

Ramesses II (r. 1279-1213 BCE, alternative spellings: Ramses, Rameses) was known to the Egyptians as Userma'atre'setepenre, which means 'Keeper of Harmony and Balance, Strong in Right, Elect of Ra'...

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...#Arabian peninsula into the #Asian continent and came through the region of #Palestine, then you will quickly see that that region has since times immemorial been like a train station that belongs to nobody and everyone: peoples and armies coming through over millennia.

How do we resolve the dispute then if the "older rights principle" won't work either?

Maybe not that difficult: few people will dispute that the #UN were legally founded.
For some ...

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...-one believing in a representative democracy , the did have the right to settle legal issues.

"Despite strong #Arab opposition, the #UnitedNations votes for the partition of #Palestine and the creation of an independent #Jewish state on this day in 1947."

https://www.history.co.uk/this-day-in-history/29-november/the-un-votes-for-the-partition-of-palestine-and-the-creation-of

But the #UN decided on the creation of 2 states:

"...and partitioning #Palestine into two independent States, one #Palestinian "
#Arab and the other #Jewish,...

The UN votes for the partition of Palestine and the creation of Israel

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#History of #Palestine and #Israel

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...with #Jerusalem internationalized (Resolution 181 (II) of 1947). "

It goes without saying that the legitimacy of a #Jewish state is inseparably intwined
With the #Creation of a 2nd #Palestinian state.

https://www.un.org/unispal/history/

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@HistoPol @marcelliotnet @Oeneus Okay, but the Palestinians have expressed a desire beyond just a Palestinian state. Their rejection of treaties and their own words indicate they seek control over the entire land, with aspirations for it to reunite with Jordan. Additionally, Palestinians reside in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, expanding beyond geographical boundaries. These territories already offer homes to Palestinian communities.

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#Geopol #WarInGaza #Israel #Palestine

Yes, and that makes things more complicated.
In the end, if not one of the 2 peoples is rather completely anihilated, an unthinkable outcome, the 1947 solution of the #UN, developed by great thinkers, is IMO the only way to a lasting solution that will not necessarily entail terrorist attacks on a daily basis.

I am not a big fan of #bible quotes, but #Hosea 8:7 holds a lot...
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...of truth.*

For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up."

*https://biblehub.com/hosea/8-7.htm

This is *exactly * what has been happening in #Palestine.
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Hosea 8:7 - Israel will Reap the Whirlwind

For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. There is no standing grain; what sprouts fails to yield flour. Even if it should produce, the foreigners would swallow it up.

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