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Jon In AlbanyRemember when Howard Dean made a weird noise and that was then end of his presidential campaign?
You would think these judgements, almost 100 felony charges and a bathroom full of classified documents would be enough.
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey@joninalbany It's remarkable; his genuine enthusiasm for an effective platform was somehow deemed unbearable, whereas Donald was able to brag about his ability to commit sexual assault without consequence. As a society, we need to eventually figure out how that happened.
S.I.R.@joninalbany how about John Kerry flip flopping? The through line is that Republicans are masters of narrative and the media loves it and profits off it.
Orc@joninalbany As always, IOKIYAR.
James 🦉 #FBPE 
@joninalbany It is now crystal clear. There is only one reason. The media. That's it. And it's made a mockery of any notion of freedom, freedom of speech, or independent thought. At least for enough of a chunk of the electorate to keep this crap alive. You could say it moved on us like a bitch.
rastilinIt's not pleasant to say but you're absolutely right.
George Liquor, American@joninalbany It's galling, but it's also pretty simple: the ruling class hated Howard Dean. They love tfg.
Urban Hermit@joninalbany the whole damn Republican party needs to line up behind Trump and wait their turn to be told that they don't matter anymore.
Then we fix climate change, save the world, and fix a whole lot of other things that already have 60+% support, but are opposed by a few hundred rich people.
Oreo Speedwagon II 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇨🇦@joninalbany Those were Dems. Trumpers are in a cult of personality. He's the second coming of Christ Almighty to them. A flawed human through whom God is working miracles. It's really something truly horrifying to watch. Good news is they announce themselves with the team uniforms they wear.
Joe ❌👑@joninalbany I was a big Howard Dean supporter, made calls and contributed money. It wasn't the scream that killed his campaign. He had just come in third in Iowa. He campaigned against the Iraq war and Saddam had just been captured; he raised a lot of money but it was all spent on really poor ads (which pissed me off, that was my money and money I talked people into giving), he was almost out of funds going into New Hampshire. The media kept replaying the scream. He was shouting to be heard over a raucous crowd, but what you heard on TV was recorded with a noise cancelling microphone. That didn't help him but he was already on the way down.
Laukidh@not2b @joninalbany I remember hearing that it didn’t even sound like that in the venue, but there was some weird sound tuning.
I think it was this 538/ on the media thing https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-dean-scream-sounded-so-different-on-tv/
Manuel Recount@not2b @joninalbany I was a huge Dean supporter... I probably memorized his stump speech after listening to his every event. Still upset that he didn't win.
bouriquet@not2b @joninalbany Don’t forget that he was a physician and a strong proponent of universal healthcare. That probably sealed his fate with help from the insurance industry.
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@joninalbany I didn't understand the Dean thing then, and I definitely don't understand it now.
Mercurius Goldstein@joninalbany
to be fair it was a really weird noise
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zombywoof@joninalbany
I do remember...I was just thinking about that the other day
I do remember...I was just thinking about that the other day
David H. McCoyStrong bigotry is, young padawan.
Big Kumera Energy@joninalbany I remember ed milliband eating a sandwich
Nicole ParsonsTrump has the backing of billionaires, both foreign and domestic.
For #KochNetwork and Putin, they are prepared to spend any amount to get Trump's dictatorship launched.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/home-depot-billionaire-says-hed-likely-still-fund-trump-if-candidate-convicted-2023-11-28/
Home Depot billionaire to fund Trump even if he is convicted
Republican mega-donor Bernie Marcus said on Tuesday he would likely still give money to Donald Trump's 2024 presidential bid if the former president was convicted of a crime - but the billionaire does not plan to be one of his biggest financial backers.
Adi@joninalbany It’s not like he’s been convicted of making a weird noise
VulcanTourist [MOVED]What I remember were his fateful public comments that revealed that he wasn't an Evangelical Christian nor perhaps even a Christ-ian at all.
That was what sank his Presidential bid. It wasn't the "weird noise". Weird noises aren't disqualifying, but sadly not being Christian enough most certainly still is... and he wasn't, just like Thomas Jefferson. That Jefferson managed it was akin to the miracles in which he didn't believe.
@VulcanTourist @joninalbany So instead, a guy faking the role of a Christian, schmoozing bishops and cardinals in NY but guilty of most biblical style crimes and sins, got elected and somehow might manage to do it again. Hypocrite.
Oh look: another poor judge of character. WTF?!
A fascist edge case does not make one of the longest-standing truths in American voting untrue or hypocritical. Polls have confirmed for decades that candidates who are open about atheist beliefs have less probability of being elected than most any other demographic you can name.
Howard Dean ran afoul of that dynamic when he conceded that he was "more spiritual than religious", a reverse dogwhistle for Christians.
@VulcanTourist @joninalbany Of course…in a country began by Puritans …that supposedly supports religious freedom…as long as it’s the “right” kind of religion.
Meske@joninalbany this entire era we are living in is laying out some of our most gastly flaws as people: our ultimate gullibility and susceptibility to influence by using pretty open source psych 101 tactics.
Much like the Great War showed us our Jungian Shadow in all its glory, the growing cult of ignorance is equally damning.
@joninalbany Yeah but Howard Dean never had the help of Putin or the 1% in the shadows. Yeee haaah.
Nick@joninalbany Howard Dean wasn't a cult leader.
FinalEyes@joninalbany The republican party doesn't exist, it is now a fascist party that enjoys lying, gaslighting, projecting, breaking laws, bribing, corrupting, grifting, conning, manipulating, abusing, selling nuclear secrets to our adversaries, withholding aid to our allies, trying to break NATO, and for the front runner raping women, all of which humiliates Americans to destroy us from within so we beg for a dear leader. There is no other way to interpret what has been going on anymore is there?
Voline@joninalbany @glennf That’s because liberals are pussies who let themselves be pushed around by the mainstream media. The Trumpers may be fascists, but they don’t let the media pick their candidate for them.
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Tim Ellis 🦝@joninalbany Hell, I'm old enough to remember when a single goofy photograph in a tank sunk a guy's presidential chances.
Asakiyume@joninalbany I do! Someone made this mashup of him doing that and the song "Crazy Train," and I've kept it all these years.
Sandhu@joninalbany So much for “liberal media”. I also remember when they killed John Kerry’s chances by covering “swift boat” shit nonstop. And I don’t think I need to remind anyone here of “her emails”.
Calum@joninalbany The US version of Ed Milliband eating a sandwich. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph
