The real Trolley Problem is that we don't have trolleys anymore
dang, I made over 100K tweets on the previous site and none of them ever went as viral as this one has... Mastodon has the juice, it seems!
(anyways I've muted this conversation now)

@egallager

y'know, on the surface removing something that is chronically introducing moral dilemma's seems reasonable

weird that no one thought to consider being curious about who is tying folks up on the tracks and address that instead though

(#attemptedHumor)

@egallager

Obama should have forced GM to rebuild them as a condition of the bailout.

@egallager The trolley problem was created by the motor industry to hide the death toll on the roads.
@egallager I have never seen anyone frame the problem in this way before and this speaks volumes to the real-world applicability of philosophical wankery.
@egallager if you really want one I can pull a few levers...
@egallager Somebody make a problem with a bunch of people walking and lots of cars coming. We could make safe spaces for people by barring cars, but it would mean drivers need to exit their cars.
@egallager One of the lesser but real reasons I love living in Toronto. Boston and San Francisco get credit too.
@oclsc @egallager And Philly!

@jonm @egallager Oh yes, forgot Philadelphia! Many do, but in my case it was unintentional.

And New Orleans!

Neil E. Hodges

I still think the anti-train bent in the United States is a result of auto industry propaganda. :/ #CarBrain #CarBrained #CarBrains

@egallager 25 years ago, I researched trolleys and concluded that automobile, oil, and rubber companies had colluded to kill off trolleys. I speculated they eagerly/wisely ripped up dedicated tracks and replaced them with buses because they feared trolleys would become popular again as traffic congestion inevitably worsened. When that eventually happened, the tracks and their dedicated rights of way were long gone
@egallager P.S. My paper pleaded with Chinese cities not to make the same mistake. Sadly, 25 years later, car congestion in China is now also horrible... so bad, actually, that in Beijing cars are allowed on the roads only on alternate days, so some wealthy people own two cars to avoid relying on public transport

@lavin @egallager

Also the backstory of Roger Rabbit in 1988

@egallager On the track, that is now defunct, but runs from the suburbs straight to downtown, no one at all is tied down. If you don't pull the lever, nothing happens. If you do pull the lever, someone pulls up the tracks and turns the old rail right-of-way into a walking trail that is useless for mass transit. An alliance of HOAs and auto industry lobbyists shove you out of the way and pull it. They pull it so hard the rusty lever breaks off. But the deed is done.

@egallager

@jwz

No, @jwildeboer had it right, it's because we don't go after the guys tying people to rail lines...

@egallager I've been flipping this switch every which way for weeks and not a single trolley has shown up to run over anyone
@egallager the trolley problem should be renamed to the joyrider problem, where instead of a trolley, we have a joyrider with broken braking systems, and instead of a lever, we have a single traffic cone.
@egallager you're going down a street in your car where 5 people are tied on the ground in the street ahead and if you take the fork there's only 1 person tied on the street ahead but you don't notice because you're looking at your phone
The Trolley Song - Meet Me In St. Louis - 1944 - Judy Garland

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@egallager Speak for yourself, we've had them continuously since the 1890's. :)

https://youtu.be/VVe6RYcrxqc

How to ride a Streetcar in Toronto

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@egallager

There are five oil tycoons on one track and they are being joined by the league or automobile manufacturers and lobbyists. On the other track... it's already been torn up... so is the one they're on... You get hit by an SUV.