I'm back at my computer. #EJeanCarroll #Trump #legal 🧵 starts here. 1/...

(Painters slowed me down. I'm catching up...patience)

Via InnerCityPress aka Press:

Habba: My client & I wish to pt out Ms Carroll can sit in front of jurors every day. But my client has to choose between attending his mother in law's funeral--
Judge Kaplan: I have ruled. Sit down
Habba: I don't like to be spoken to that why. Please refrain. I am asking for an adjournment for a funeral.
Judge Kaplan: Denied. Sit down

2/ Press:

Robbie Kaplan (RK): Plaintiff calls E. Jean Carroll.
RK: Where do you live?
Carroll: In upstate NY in the mountains, in a small cabin.
RK: Why are you here?
Carroll: Donald Trump abused then defamed me and shattered my reputation
Has Mr. Trump continued to lie about you?
Carroll: He lied Sunday, and yesterday.
Habba: Objection - non responsive, and not at issue here.
Judge Kaplan: Certainly relevant to damages. Overruled.

3/ Press:

RK: How was your reputation shattered?
Carroll: Yesterday on Twitter I saw, Hey lady, you're a fraud. Previously I was a columnist. Now I'm known as a wack job. People don't write to an advice columnist that's being attacked like this. In the first case, what were your claims?
Carroll: Assault and defamation.
RK: When was the assault?
Carroll: 1996.
RK: How long did the trial last?
Carroll: 2 weeks.
RK: Who cross examined you?
Carroll: Joe Tacopina
Habba: Objection
Judge: Sustained

4/ DAMN. Mastodon still glitchy @Gargron !

Press:

RK: Where did you grow up?
Carroll: Indiana. My mother was a volunteer for the Republican Party
Habba: Objection, relevance.
Judge Kaplan: Background.
Habba: You ruled no politics
Judge: Fair enough.
RK: How did your parents raise you?
Carroll: Small school house. They had 2 rules: smile and look on the bright side. I wanted to be a writer.
RK: Where'd you go to college?
Carroll: Indiana University. I was a cheerleader.

5/ Press:

Carroll: I was nominated for a beauty pageant.
Another Trump lawyer: Objection
Judge Kaplan: Who said that? This is not tag team.
RK: How did you become a writer?
Carroll: After 20 years of negativity, I got my first piece accepted at age 46. I taught gym in Idaho
I was found in the slush pile at Esquire. Then other doors opened. I wrote for Rolling Stone, New York
RK: Did you move to New York City?
Carroll: In 1980 or 1981. I said, I love it here. And I stayed.

6/ Press:

RK: How'd you become an advice columnist?
Carroll: Elle gave me a column in 1993. People ask questions, my answers were published. Ask E Jean.
RK: What is this photo?
Carroll: This is me [in a loosely tied tie] Dec 1995

RK: What kind of questions did you get?
Carroll: The comedy and drama of life. Mostly, How do I get my husband to take my showers? And, How do I get my wife to let me get back in bed and off the couch. I had 80% women, 20% men. I broke with the past

7/ Press:

Carroll: I was all about taking action. Lead an adventurous life. It was light hearted - but deeply serious. I had a TV show too.
RK: When:
Carroll: 1994 to 1996, then the channel I was on became MSNBC. My channel was started by Roger Ailes.

RK: Did you appear on other TV shows?
Carroll: Yes, GMA, The Bill Maher Show, Anderson Cooper, the shows that were on every day. I could be slotted in for four minutes
RK: How often were you on TV?
Carroll: Often
Habba: Objection - too broad

8/ Press:

RK: Most recently?
Carroll: Today Show, weekly, 2015-2016.
RK: Have you written books?
Carroll: 5. A bio of Hunter Thompson. A book of essays. A memoir.
RK: This is "Female DIfficulties." Forgive me, but it looks a little dated.
Carroll: It's from 1983
RK: Put up the Hunter S. Thompson biography.
Carroll: He's the astonish journalist. I wrote it between 1991 & 1992, it was published in 1993. It was extremely well reviewed. The reviewers were all journalists and they all loved Hunter.

9/ Press:
RK: And this book?
Carroll: It's about what women think --
Habba: Objection, vague. What women think --
👉🏼Judge Kaplan: Ms. Habba, when you speak in this courtroom or any other courtroom you'll stand up

Carroll: Women were very blunt, in Alabama and Arkansas & Ohio - they were thrilled to talk to a journalist.
RK: When did you start writing it?
Carroll: 2017. It was published in 2019.
RK: Was Donald Trump initially on your list?
Carroll: No. But I was overwhelmed

10/ Press:
RK: What did you say about Mr. Trump in that book?
Carroll: That we met outside of Bergdorf's... He asked me to help buy a gift. We went to the lingerie department
Judge Kaplan: Ms. Habba?
Habba: Objection. Already determined.
RK: How many pages about about Mr. Trump?
😂Carroll: Nine. Ms. Kaplan, may I have my glasses? They're in my purse. Good luck finding them in that bag
Habba: I object. This goes to the underlying facts.
RK: We can redact it further. They've had this a long time
11/ Press:
Judge Kaplan: I'm advised that the version on the screen is not redacted.
RK: This is what Mr. Trump reacted to.
Judge Kaplan: Ms. Habba, what about that?
Habba: The president denied an allegation on the White House lawn from a reporter.
We can't ask her about the other men, that she claimed assaulted her.
Judge: I don't get what you said but I'm going to sustain it anyway.
Habba: Move to strike.
Judge Kaplan: To strike what?
Madaio: Ms. Kaplan read it.
Judge Kaplan: Mr. Madaio...
12/ Press:
RK: What an excerpt published?
Carroll: June 21, 2019 in NY Mag.
RK: What time of day?
Carroll: The NYT was going to publish an article about the book, that caused NY Magazine to rush it out on Friday, in the afternoon. They jumped the gun
RK: Did the excerpt include the assault by Donald Trump?
Carroll: yes.
RK: Yesterday Ms. Habba talked about a 5 hr interval. Did the except incl a denial?
Carroll: Yes, a denial from the WH
Habba: She is waiving the ability for me to cross examine

13/ Press:

RK: Had you told anyone publicly the story about Mr. Trump?
Carroll: No.
RK: Did it factor in, that he was President?
Carroll: Yes. I went ahead and did it.
RK: Did you expect him to respond?
👉🏼Carroll: I thought he'd say it was consensual.

13/ Press:

RK: Is that what he did?
👉🏼Carroll: No. He said my false accusation damaged the real victims of sexual assault, that is a lie
Habba: Objection
Judge Kaplan: On what ground? In one word
Habba: She is not a lawyer
Judge Kaplan: Overruled
RK: Have you paid dearly?
👉🏼Carroll: Just about as dearly as it is possible to pay.
RK: What is this document?
Carroll: An announcement by the Office of the Press Secretary.
RK: Move to admit.
Judge Kaplan: Received.

14/ Press:

👉🏼Carroll: He said that numerous women had been paid to make false accusations about him and that these women did very well --
Habba: Objection
Judge Kaplan: Overruled.
Carroll: It was untrue. I was not paid.
RK: What about paying dearly?
👉🏼Carroll: He said people like me should tread carefully -
Habba: Objection
Judge Kaplan: Overruled.
RK: What is the context of these statements by Mr. Trump?
Carroll: He's on his way to the helicopter, questions from journalists

15/ Press:
RK: What's this from The Hill?
Carroll: It's partially about me.
Habba: Objection. It's not part of this case.
Judge: Overruled...Jurors, this statement is not part of the application for damages
RK: What's new here?
Carroll: 👉🏼He said, I'm not his type. Meaning, I'm too ugly-
Habba: Objection - speculation.
Judge Kaplan: Overruled. You can cross examine.
👉🏼Carroll: The president called me a liar 26 times. It ended the world I had been living in. I'm in a new world.

16/ Press:

RK: What next?
Carroll: I was attacked. On Twitter. On FB. It was a new world
RK: What is this?
Carroll: A FB chat, directed to me.
RK: Do you know the author?
Carroll: No. It was June 21, 2019, at 6:09 pm
RK: What is UCT?
Carroll: Universal time code
RK: What is this?
Carroll: A message on FB. The Monday, June 24, 2019
RK: What does this person say?
Carroll: He talked about how ashamed I should be, I made it harder for the true victims of abuse
RK: Did D Trump say that?
Carroll: Yes

17/ Press:

RK: How often do you receive such messages?
👉🏼Carroll: Sometimes 100s a day.
RK: What are the themes?
Carroll: That, You are a liar... You hurt victims... You are ugly. Those are first three.
RK: And your motivations?
Habba: Objection. We were ordered not to discuss

Via Ben Feuerherd:

RK then displayed FB message:

“Your nothing but a liar! Trump did nothing to you! Your only saying this to promote your book! You have to answer to the LORD for your lies! I hope it was worth it.”

18/ Orden:

Carroll testified: "Well, to have the president of the United States, one of the most powerful persons on earth, calling me a liar for three days and saying I’m a liar 26 times -- I counted them -- it ended the world that I had been living in. And I entered a new world."

19/ Press:

Judge Kaplan: Sidebar
[Whispered sidebar ensues, then they're back]
RK: Let's start with messages calling you a liar.
Carroll: This is a Facebook chat. She says, She was not going to ask me for advice.

20/ Press:

RK: This asks how much George Soros paid you. Who is he?
Carroll: A rich old man.
RK: Did you pay you?
Carroll: No.
RK: Do you know anyone at the DNC?
Carroll: No.
Habba: I will be addressing this on cross
Judge Kaplan: We'll see. I don't need announcements

👉🏼Judge Kaplan: I make the rulings here.
Habba: I was just --
👉🏼👏🏻Judge Kaplan: Sit down.
RK: How many requests for advice did you get per month?
Carroll: Two hundred a month. Now only eight.

21/ Press:

15 min break

With jury out
Carroll's Shawn Crowley: Ms. Habba has twice now mentioned other men - now she's brought up that Ms. Carroll received funding for this case. That was improper.
👀👉🏼And Mr. Trump has been loudly saying, She got her memory back

22/ Via Orden bc why not reiterate Judge Kaplan's awesomeness:

After Habba says she intends to question Carroll about a topic previously deemed off-limits, Judge Kaplan scolds her again:
"The last I heard, Ms. Habba, I do not need announcements from counsel about what they intend to do."
Habba stared to speak.
Judge Kaplan: “Sit down.”

23/ Press:

Judge Kaplan: Ms. Habba?
Habba: They asked her if she had funding, she said no. We know that she had funding.
Judge Kaplan: What about Mr. Trump being vocal in the presence of the jury?

Carroll's Shawn Crowley: We asked about funding from George Soros, not for this lawsuit
Habba: It's Reid Hoffman
Judge Kaplan: I'll consider what you said.
[Leaves bench. The "Trump vocalization" issue not addressed. Yet?

24/ Orden:

With the jury out of the room, Carroll's lawyer Shawn Crowley is complaining that Trump is muttering loud enough that the plaintiff's table can hear him. Crowley says Trump is saying Carroll's testimony is false and suggesting she has "suddenly gotten her memory back."

25/ While I've got a breather here from all the breaking news:

Again, thanks for the "NFL" (Not For Laffy) label because I do NOT have time to read, let alone reply, while I'm live tooting.

I'm all caught up, btw. You're getting all posts in real time now.

26/ Press:

They're back.
👉🏼Judge: Before the jury comes in, I'm just going to ask that Mr. Trump take special care to lower his voice when conferring with counsel so that the jury doesn't overhear it.
Jury entering!
[Now Trump whispering directly into Habba's ear]
old but

27/ Press:

RK: Ms. Carroll, what is this?
Carroll: My tweet before Mr. Trump's statement. My tweet was about taking a road trip. And this reply hits all the high spot - saying I'm psychologically messed up. And that's ugly and should avoid a mirror. I know I'm old but...
RK: Did any of the messages you received accuse you of being promiscuous?
Carroll: Yes. This email was sent to me, and my publisher and my agent. It made me feel horrible.

28/ Press:
RK: Did you receive some even more upsetting?
👉🏼Carroll: They threatened to kill me
RK: How many threatened violence?
👉🏼Carroll: 100s.
RK: What was 1st time?
Carroll: Around 11:30 that night, I was in cheap hotel on 10th Av. Rm was small, there was no desk, just a board you flapped down. I went to Twitter for brking news.I saw, You lying scumbag - so I went to my Ask E Jean website, lking for support. (more)

29/ Press:

😳Carroll: There was a lovely email saying You Go Girl but the next 1 I thought I was going to get shot. I couldn't get the curtain closed. There was a message with a photo of a woman who had obviously been murdered, there was blood on her neck-
Habba: Objection, inflammatory
Judge Kaplan: Sustained.
Carroll: I hit delete, delete. I couldn't help myself. I went back to Twitter

30/ Press:

RK: Did you sleep a lot that night?
Carroll: No, because of the window. I didn't sleep until six or seven in the morning.
RK: What is this?
👉🏼Carroll: A Facebook message to me... "Dishonest treasonous lemmings," it describes how I should die.

31/ Press:

[Me: Every perceived enemy of Trump gets the exact same false accusations. Terrorism.]
👉🏼RK: Prior to June 2019 had any reader ever accused you of being a pedophile, or a Satan worshipping Nazi?
Carroll: No.
RK: What's this?
Carroll: A Facebook message, a day after last year's trial.
👉🏼They want me murdered, they say
[On the screen for jurors: a message incl "no lube"]
💔Carroll: I'm sorry that people in this courtroom have to see these images (sobs)

32/ Press:

RK: Some of these were posted on public media sites- but the threats of violence were sent to you privately, right?
Carroll: Yes
RK: Why didn't you delete your social media accounts?
Carroll: My favorite journalists are on social media - to not be on it, as a writer, would be oblivion.

33/ Press:

RK: Did you ever come to regret coming forward about Mr. Trump in light of these messages?
Carroll: Only momentarily. I'm glad I took action.
RK: What steps have you taken to protect yourself?
👉🏼Carroll: I let my pitbull off his leash. I put in an electronic fence

34/ My god.

Press:

Carroll: I bought bullets for the gun I inherited from my father. I keep it by my bed
RK: And driving?
Carroll: I pay attention to who's behind me. When I run errands, I look to see who is around. At the grocery I had a filled cart and I see a man in a brown shirt. Back at my home, I realized I left my groceries back at the store.
RK: Do you have personal security with you at this trial?
Carroll: Yes.
RK: Would you like more?
Carroll: I can't afford it.

35/ Press:

RK: Do you tell your friends about the threats?
Carroll: No. What can they do? I stay cheery.
RK: Who is Lisa Birnbach?
Carroll: My friend of more than 30 years.
RK: What did you tell, the night in the small hotel room?
Carroll: That I was Fine as wine

@GottaLaff "RK: Do you have personal security with you at this trial?
Carroll: Yes.
RK: Would you like more?
Carroll: I can't afford it."

If she is in KY ever, and wants volunteer security, I am available. Not joking.

@GottaLaff Feed is very glitchy for me. NFL
@GottaLaff
I hope she enjoys his anger-scented breath against her cheek.
@GottaLaff NFL: If the jury truly accepts the prior findings of facts, hearing his childish fits might not work the way he thinks.
@GottaLaff You are the best, Laffy!! No need to reply. Just want you to know I so appreciate your time!! 🤩🤩🤩
@GottaLaff My 13-year old son knows that trick: mutter just loud enough to be heard and just quiet enough to deny that you were saying anything!
@tersenurse, yep, it's a classic, especially when followed by a shrug and a "What? I didn't say anything."
@Dr_Elizabeth97 @tersenurse High school teacher here. Page One of the snotty teenager manual.
@RustyRing @tersenurse , yep. I grew up with 5 brothers. There were doing that in the late 60's. Now I am a child/adolescent psychologist. Seen it, heard it, have the t-shirt.
@Dr_Elizabeth97 @RustyRing I would like to obtain the t-shirt!
@tersenurse, I see that you are an avid outdoorsperson and hospice nurse. That's a lot of t-shirt content right there. On a serious note, thank you for what you do. Hospice nurses are incredibly helpful and dear to so many. @RustyRing
@Dr_Elizabeth97 @tersenurse Second the motion on the hospice nurse. I was full time live-in care for my mom's home hospice three years ago. (During lockdown; apocalyptic is the word.) The nurses were terrific.
@RustyRing @tersenurse , oh my heavens! My dad had hospice care in 2018. My mom and I frequently noted how much harder it would have been during the beginning of the pandemic. He had Parkinson's related dementia. The world he lived in was so scary and confusing.
@Dr_Elizabeth97 @RustyRing It's a really really good feeling to be able to help people out in their homes at the end of life. During the pandemic, I was an inpatient covid nurse, it sucked.

@Dr_Elizabeth97 @tersenurse Extremely dystopian. Streets empty, stores bare (and you couldn't get in anyway), no-one can come into the house. Except the nurses in their hazmat suits, fortunately.

Couldn't get things we desperately needed. (Remember the longterm run on cleaning supplies? Hell, just toilet paper.) Hard to explain to Mom, who hadn't been to town in months, why I couldn't get her favourite foods.

The nurses really helped me get certain critical medical supplies I couldn't source out in the civilian world. And in one case, got read-out for it.

@GottaLaff nobody thought he would behave, did they?
@GottaLaff "NFL" New drinking game: One drink for each time the judge says,"Sit down."
🍷🤪
@GottaLaff Is Trump there? Habba sounds like she's trying desperately to derail the testimony.

@darthstar @GottaLaff

That's her strategy.
It's all she's got.

@GottaLaff (for Laffy to comment if time permits) IANAL but this thread seems to me that Habba is way out of her league trying to object in Kaplan's court. Ignoring previous rulings, trying to re-litigate, etc. Being told to sit down is being treated as an out of control child would be. Seems to be a losing strategy in front of the jury.
@GottaLaff " I don't need announcements" 👍
@GottaLaff "I don't need announcements." Hahaha
@GottaLaff Coordinated Universal Time in french

@GottaLaff

Habba's misusing her cross privileges to insinuate nefarious and shady motives. I didn't know she could do that. I thought the trial was done.

@JaneDoeTheFirst It is. And the judge hates her.