Since Bill Ackman and his followers have so many questions about how Wikipedia works now that his wife has been accused of plagiarizing from it, I figured I'd help him out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_jM6aoTDK0
#Wikipedia #BillAckman #plagiarism

A Wikipedian explains Wikipedia to Bill Ackman

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(aforementioned questions)
@molly0xfff these questions seem pretty bad faith, maybe it’s just me Edit: Molly literally makes this point in her video
@evn whaaaat? you can't possibly be suggesting that these guys' plagiarism crusades could be less than genuine
@molly0xfff I should have watched your video ~before~ commenting lol. Great vid btw!!
@evn @molly0xfff I want to know when Bill Ackman set his Twitter profile picture to be him and Neri. Is this a totally normal thing that Hedge Fund guys do all of the time?
@molly0xfff @evn look, they just have a sincere concern about ethics in video game journalism, okay!
@molly0xfff "is Wikipedia copyrighted?" is pretty damn hilarious.

@stinerman @molly0xfff it’s almost like they don’t know what copyright even *is*

It’s baffling

@stinerman @molly0xfff It isn't like there's any kind of copyright statement on the bottom of ... oh wait.

@molly0xfff

Please consider following up on your blog with screenshots of any interesting follow-ups to this thread; I'm no longer logged into Xitter

@molly0xfff wow, they’re coming out with 6 preemptive counterpoints
@one28ozcan efficient!
@molly0xfff @one28ozcan I'm too lazy to test my theory that I could paste each question into my favorite local search engine and get a pretty spot on answer in the first result. But I'm pretty sure I could.
@molly0xfff ...did he really just do a "it's antisemitic to not let me control the narrative around a plagiarism accusation" 🤨

@molly0xfff

Thank you. This is very good. I've taught Wikipedia as a subject previously and could so have used this video as a good source. When and if I teach it again, I will. 1/

The truly funny thing is that simple qoutation marks and a reference solve the issue. You can quote verbatim as long as you make sure the quote is explicit. 2/
It seems to me (but now I'm speculating) that exactly the poor understanding of Wikipedia's actual qualites that you reference early in you presentation may cause people to cover their quoting more because they think it reflects badly on their writing that they reference Wikipedia. 3/
It obviously doesn't. That's balderdash. But the "conviction remnant" (sorry for the strange expression, but you know what I mean) still hovers over us.
@molly0xfff Great video, but I wish you'd said it in so many words: plagiarizing public domain works is still plagiarism. You can (legally) steal text from Winnie the Pooh, but you can't (ethically) pretend to have written Winnie the Pooh.
@isaac32767 I think I got there around 7:41!

@molly0xfff I didn't mean to imply that you didn't cover the point. I just would have liked it said clearly and distinctly, so the BS artists can't dodge it.

What am I saying? They can dodge anything!

@molly0xfff

Bill Ackmam wants folks to know that targeted harassment campaigns can be purchased by the rich to turf anyone, absolutely anyone, out of their job.

It's a feature of the anti-democracy movement he has joined.

The knowledge that resistance is futile has been underlined with every dean, scientist, academic, and public official.

@molly0xfff

his questions are comic gold

"how can I refute a charge of breaking and entering when I'm just leaving to go to work?”

@molly0xfff LMFAO plagiarism and copyright are completely unrelated. It is possible to plagiarize from works which are public domain or which you yourself hold the copyright.
@molly0xfff this was super educational. Thanks for making the video!

@molly0xfff

Great explainer Molly! As a long-time contributor to @wikipedia and #Wikimedia Commons myself, willful ignorance about these projects annoys me to no end as well.

#Wikipedia

@molly0xfff I loved that (and laughed out loud). Thank you.
@molly0xfff this video is so good, except I wish I didn't know who either of those weirdos were (damn my traitor thumb)
@molly0xfff I cannot boost this enough. Billionaires incredibly wrong about Wikipedia shows how messed up the world is right now.
@molly0xfff Sweet sweet marital bliss alllll weekend!
@molly0xfff Woo that is a heaping helping of schadenfreude plus sarcasm. love it.
@molly0xfff Ah, the Shabbat. Wouldn’t it be nice if other people be more mindful about it, you know the thing that DEI would educate and help people understand and be more considerate toward others. Perhaps Bill Ackman should donate toward DEI efforts rather than attack DEI, and his family will be afforded more time to defend themselves the next time they are involved in scandals near the Shabbat. Or just not be a jerk in the first place.

@molly0xfff Absolutely glorious, and it reminded me of one of my favorite bugs I ever reported. I caught devs copying from Wikipedia verbatim without attribution for the “Man vs. Wild with Bear Grylls” video game.

They got pissy and refused to change it until I rewrote the text for them.

The worst part? I caught them because they were retyping instead of copy-pasting. There were SO. MANY. TYPOS, I had to go search what they were talking about to fix it and that’s how I found out.

@molly0xfff this guy is a perfect example of what the rich do to the rest of us as they indulge their egos with the money they steal out of our pockets from manipulating markets to price gouging.

@molly0xfff

Typical Republican, plagiarism for me but not for thee...

@molly0xfff I'll be disappointed if Matt Levine has nothing to say about this.
@molly0xfff Extraordinary commentary. Brilliant.
@molly0xfff Haven’t watched the video yet, but the screenshot is A+ excellent.
@molly0xfff Bill Ackman should look up moving the goal posts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Moving the goalposts - Wikipedia

@molly0xfff oops!! I actually kinda feel a little bit sorry for his wife for getting dragged into this, although copying paragraphs of Wikipedia into your doctoral dissertation is pretty unwise and unethical.
@cohomologyisFUN @molly0xfff She *chose* to marry him. And copying CC material without attribution is actually also a copyright violation - though there won't be legal consequences as WP has better things to do. Finding out that even extreme privilege will not protect you from being made to look bad, will be a valuable life lesson for her.
@martinvermeer @molly0xfff yeah, that’s why I said “a little bit” sorry. Mostly I don’t feel sorry for her. (And even if she lost her job, I have a feeling she’ll be ok)
@molly0xfff
In case this hasn't happened to you on #YouTube, *sometimes* YT accepts, but then silently deletes,😡 comments w/ URLs - like Wikipedia refs. Write, post helpful comment w/link. Try to edit, or refresh page and it's gone! ☹️☮️👎#YouTubeSucks #IHateYouTube
Hence, I seldom try to share WP links on *unfamiliar* channels. Unclear if URL-kill is a default setting, an optional setting by overzealous channel mods trying to avoid spam / trolls and/or YouTube algorithm(s)☹️ #EverythingIsStupid
@molly0xfff 1st-offf, you are amazing... 2nd-ly. i have been reading web 3 is great since the beginnning... thank you for that... anddddddddd, thats it... see you in the verse.
@molly0xfff I’d like to report a murder…

@molly0xfff not a big fan of the #Wikipedia, at all, or at least not the #HebrewWikipedia, which I used to edit. When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict, it's a 100% written by settlers trained in Naftali Benet's (ex PM) Zionist editing boot camps, started more than a decade ago.

Quickly skimming through Oxman's entry, I'm missing references to her counterpart, rival, inspiration: Iraqi-British Zaha Hadid (زها حديد) .... not a single reference as far as I can tell.

@molly0xfff I have to admit that I would have never imagine that a rich scholar who built her whole scholarship on design buzzwords is also a plagiarist. I'm really shocked.

@molly0xfff
Whoa Bill Ackman walked into a gunfight with a pocket knife. I'd say Molly White handed him his ass! 🤔 😜

By the way only a small percentage of users actually support Wikipedia. I happen to be one of them. Wikipedia is a fabulous resource that many of us find indispensable.
So all you users lets get those wallets out and pony up the cash. If we all sent them $25.00 a year they would be flush and would not have to beg for support on their web sight. If you use it help pay for it !

@molly0xfff 👆great video on Wikipedia
@molly0xfff I’m glad you’re still looking at the Xitter cesspool, so we don’t have to.
That list of questions is so dumb / deflecting it’s laughable, but I’m sure his acolytes will lap it up.