JJTurner
The VHS Wizard 🦝📼🧙
f♯ a♯ ∞@DrakkenZero i guess RTing the original toot might be better than the shitty sky copycat 😬
Jack Jackson (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Wake up babe, Godwin's Second Law just dropped
derptron@DrakkenZero That 1% is just methodological uncertainty. The actual, practical number is 100.
JB@DrakkenZero I love science. #GodwinsSecondLaw
Lewis@DrakkenZero Agreed. The worst this is having to use it to explain what twats they are. I have never said it out loud...too embarrassing.
enmodo ⚛️ 🧬 🇺🇦 🍉@DrakkenZero I think it would be better as a second law if it said "will turn out to be a Nazi" since the vast majority of those suffering from Woke Derangement Syndrome align themselves with the Nazi branch of American conservatism.
I think George Carlin got it right with his quip on the American Dream being called that because you have to be asleep to believe it. Which is probably why the anti woke brigade are so deathly afraid of being woke.
distincte&clare"They never woke up / from the American dream."
Melissa Etheridge, Nowhere to go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAQ7o-dk6E
Melissa Etheridge - Nowhere To Go
Nazani@DrakkenZero
Let the NAACP give youi the backstory on "woke."
https://www.naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/
Let the NAACP give youi the backstory on "woke."
https://www.naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/
Zalasur 🐸🇺🇦@DrakkenZero It's a good law
ted byfield@DrakkenZero @hypebot For decades, wannabe-savvy types used Godwin’s “law” as a mathy-sounding way to dismiss signs of fascism, then — surprise! — it turns out fascists really were everywhere. 🤔 And now, instead of showing a bit of humility for what he enabled, he’s cooking up new nonsense.
Juho MäntysaloI don't know.
Godwin's Law (the first) helped me develop my debate skills. When I couldn't just say "this is like Hitler" but instead had to resort to things like "it's hard to find any good things with these policies... poverty will rise, among other things".
Even as fascism is on the rise, I find it more helpful to speak of the results of these policies instead of referring to shorthand, as pop culture has mixed the actual Nazi policies with fictional stuff.
Boud@iju @tb @DrakkenZero @hypebot
Clarifications by Godwin on the first law:
"If you're going to compare somebody to Hitler or the Nazis or raise the specter of the Holocaust, be sure you’ve got your facts right." [1]
"What's arguably worse than Trump's frank authoritarianism is his embrace of dehumanizing tropes that seem to echo Hitler's rhetoric deliberately." [2]
[1] " 'Trump Knows What He’s Doing': ... the Hitler Comparison Is Apt ": https://archive.today/2023.12.22-083134/https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-law-trump-hitler-00132427
@boud @tb @DrakkenZero @hypebot
While true, these clarifications came out about 25 years after I started arguing online :)
@iju @tb @DrakkenZero @hypebot
Slightly off-topic: I wonder if the following hypothesis (law? ;)) has already been formulated (or studied formally):
"De facto moderators of *non-public* online discussion (e.g. non-public email threads) will more likely use logical fallacies in summarising the discussion than moderators of *public* online discussion."
My guess is that the difficulty for researchers to study the hypothesis would be access to the non-public threads.
@boud @iju @DrakkenZero @hypebot @boud ZOMG here come the godwinsplainers. 😂 It’s like the good old days when the world was full of arendtsplainers who were all like *well Trump and the GOP aren’t _actually_ fascist because* ______, as if Arendt were Aquinas.
@iju @DrakkenZero @hypebot This is a really nice point, in part because it’s about improving your own approach rather than suppressing others. 👍🏼
mathew@tb @DrakkenZero @hypebot Godwin's Law doesn't say that it's *incorrect* to compare someone to Hitler, only that the probability of it happening trends towards 1 as an argument proceeds.
It was Leo Strauss who came up with the idea that it was necessarily fallacious to compare someone to Hitler.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/20/godwins-law-trump-hitler-comparisons/
Chusi
Robert Taylor@DrakkenZero Ain’t that the effing truth!
C.S.StrowbridgeI've been saying this for a while.
Tim Chambers@DrakkenZero Godwin pretty much would know about Godwin's Second Law.
Three plus or minus five@DrakkenZero
I can’t figure out who the remaining 1% could be
I can’t figure out who the remaining 1% could be
Jargoggles@ThreeSigma @DrakkenZero
Those are the people who are just really, really good at hiding the fact that they're fuckheads.
Those are the people who are just really, really good at hiding the fact that they're fuckheads.
Andreas@DrakkenZero From my unscientific sample, that law seems to be correct.
Neorat™ Ad #FuckYourZionistEthnostateIt’s the same with people claiming to be anti-communists. Like, I get it. I don’t like Marxists-Leninists and Maoists too, but people claiming that are generally asswipes.
Confused and RudeThis seems generalizable to many other cases of someone using a word that means something good, as if it means something bad. Examples: pathetic, rude, queer, weirdo, slut, science, feminism, anarchy, communism. What other examples can you, dear reader, think of?