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Church of Jeff
Stu Duerson, machina exo deusIn a world of Puritans, I'll spend Thanksgiving at the Natives' Table, thank you very much.
Ty~@jeffowski It's the same people that say "Facts out way your feelings, snowflake" that complain about evolving the working and student culture of America.
AJ@jeffowski @drahardja also applies to companies arbitrarily enforcing return to office policies for remote employees
Ulrike@aj @jeffowski @drahardja
A lot of that is to mitigate falling property values to keep company "asset" figures from falling and making investor returns increase slightly less than last quarter.
A lot of that is to mitigate falling property values to keep company "asset" figures from falling and making investor returns increase slightly less than last quarter.
obscurestar@ulidig @aj @jeffowski @drahardja Yup. Most of the 'back to office' is driven by the same parasites that drive up the rental market. They need those captive workers to bleed or they might have to get jobs themselves.
Comrade elronxenu@jeffowski It's the same reason NSW doesn't have pill testing at music festivals.
Laukidh@jeffowski California limited school start times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/california-later-school-start-times.html
TAI@jeffowski I wish I could present a more tame analogy, but sorry .; it fails me. Imagine an MMA bout or boxing match with NO break between rounds. What would that look like and would people want to see it? The breaks between rounds aren't for the sake of the participants, strictly selfish motives. Performance declines rapidly beyond a certain threshold. It would be a sloppy mess. From a strictly selfish position, employers are idiots
AlakestPOSIWID
The purpose of a system is what it does (POSIWID) is a systems thinking heuristic coined by Stafford Beer, who observed that there is "no point in claiming that the purpose of a system is to do what it constantly fails to do."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does
Authorities only want efficiency and effectiveness when it suits their own, arbitrary objectives.
They *actively* cultivate inefficiency and ineffectiveness among everyone else to insulate themselves against surprises.
genris@jeffowski Puritanical feelings and a healthy dose of "I had to suffer so I'll be damned if everyone else isn't going to" which might as well be on our money, it's so much a part of the American creed.
DadsForSensibleCurfews@jeffowski it's not about feelings we live in a class based society, preserving that is more important than progress to these people 🥳
mahachakra@jeffowski Yes, I remember reading about this back in the 90s and the regime is still the same. Dinosaurs want to believe they know better.
Den of Earth@jeffowski
I remember reading about a school who inverted the concept and told kids to watch Khan Academy as homework, so that they could then spend the time in class to do exercises while the teacher was there to explain.
I remember reading about a school who inverted the concept and told kids to watch Khan Academy as homework, so that they could then spend the time in class to do exercises while the teacher was there to explain.
William Gunn@jeffowski What outcomes were the studies you refer to looking at? Whatever we're doing, it's not working. https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-there-is-a-worldwide-problem-in-math-and-its-not-just-about-the-pandemic/
Haelus Novak@jeffowski But it's so effective! How else to prepare them to be abused and used, spending the rest of their life making some rich people richer while they struggle in the streets?
Robin Capper@jeffowski That's education to prepare them for work, not life or happiness
MsMeropekids learn better when they have access to nature, art, music, and some form of movement.
So what do most schools do? Cut art and music and give them 10 minutes of "recess" on some potholed asphalt.
The Turtle
Epistatacadam@jeffowski I'm in favour of the Medieval Serf hours of working to the lord of the manor.
You provided 3-4 days work for him each week, the rest was yours, to grow food for yourself, have fun etc. Sunday was strictly no work at all.
Accordt to the notice in a local medieval village near me.
You provided 3-4 days work for him each week, the rest was yours, to grow food for yourself, have fun etc. Sunday was strictly no work at all.
Accordt to the notice in a local medieval village near me.
Estarriol, Terrorist Dragon@jeffowski how else do you train drone workers unless you start them early on long hours and unpaid extra work eating into their free time?
Nini@jeffowski Well, the Puritans loved to punish and be punished for sins varied and ill-defined so life itself must also be filled with minor hurdles as fitting punishment for the sin of living. Enjoy your anti-logic conformance training but not too much, joy is a sin.
grayrattus@jeffowski is there actually a study that shows that students with less homework do better in school?
Yep.
I can't offer percentages, but a big purpose of most jobs has nothing to do with productivity or the stated results.
Jobs/labor/school are often ways to occupy attention where it is easier for authorities to manage.
The grind of most occupations is a way to sort out who will obey and who won't and then modulate rewards to cultivate non-disruptors or disruptors as suits existing authority.
zendao42
undead enby of the apocalypse@jeffowski this makes a lot more sense if you realize that the point is not for students or workers to do better or be more productive, the point is control.
The Doctor@jeffowski In school, they used to say that would make us weak.
Xymon@jeffowski And parents' work schedules.