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daniel:// stenberg://I never used any of the modern AI tools for writing code, copilot etc. I'm old. Traditional. Using emacs. And I write my code manually - like a cave man.
Adolph@bagder Like a good programmer:comfy:
Thomas Frans ๐บ๐ฆ@bagder Like someone who actually likes programming for the sake of it.
Joe Cooper ๐บ๐ฆ ๐@bagder I tried CoPilot for about an hour. I'm a much better programmer than CoPilot, and I'm not even that good of a programmer. It lies all the time, and it takes way more time to unroll all of its stupid nonsense than it does to just write the danged code myself. And...programming is kinda the fun part of the job. It's all the other stuff that's tedious and I don't like doing. I want automation for answering the same dumb questions from users, but LLMs can't do that right, either.
selje ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ด ๐ฎ๐ช@bagder
Vim for me, but yeah, a text editor and a tool chain...
Vim for me, but yeah, a text editor and a tool chain...
Janne Oksanen@bagder Here I am crafting artisanal asm code like an animal.
Mattias Karlsson (he/him)@bagder curl works fine against ChatGTP APIs ๐
I rarely use AI for code, but found it great for summarizing and generating text. Especially in situations where you don't want to generate text in anger๐Then you can write to Chat GPT in anger and it will convert it into professional language.
Previewing some AI services that summarize code and code changes, and that's super useful especially when reviewing big PRs.
@devlead I'm sure I eventually will use tools like that to assist me in my daily work. I certainly will at least try them out before I dismiss, if offered. I have not seen any "summarize PRs" services so I cannot comment on how they could help my workflows.
@bagder GitHub upcoming CoPilot for PRs is one example
https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests
https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests
MaineC@bagder I've contributed to several open source projects. There those that are hard to understand in particular without an ide - and those with clear architecture that can easily be extended and patched just using vim/Emacs even when not an expert in the programming language they are written in. Personally I'm always happy about the latter ones.
Uair@bagder I still manually type my text messages. On a flip phone.
Ryuno-Ki@bagder Welcome to the club!
Using Vim here but feel like you.
tvaughan@bagder s/old/experienced/
NewkWhat I'm hearing: Curl, soon with AI!
@Newk hehe, I will not rule out anything to happen eventually, but I can say with some certainty that it will not happen *this* year ๐
Quincy โin other words, you're not using automated #microplagiarism. very commendable
Juliette@bagder You are not alone in this.
Stefan Koopmanschap
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Harry Sintonen@bagder I hope you're not chained to the cave wall. ๐โ
Jimmy Sjรถlund ๐ธ๐ช ๐ซ๐ฎ ๐ช๐บ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ@bagder And got your code to Mars. So there's that. ๐
Matthew Weier O'Phinney@bagder Same. The only "big" change I've made in 23 years is switching from vim to neovim.
Desert Plains@bagder , one cave man saying to another cave man. Hi ๐ .
Waldorf Statler@bagder I totally feel you
Alexander Reifinger@bagder What are you trying to say? "I'm an old white man who refuses to acknowledge change! Punch cards were the first step into the wrong direction!"?
Take it with a grain of salt ;-)
@ViejoViajero something like that, yes =)
Alan Hicks
Haelwenn /ัะปะฒัะฝ/ 
@bagder Emacs with no AI is quite ironic given its origins of MIT AI lab.
Freevolt@bagder Cave men. Together. Strong.
Gilles Bonnet@bagder writing code is the way to tell what you have in mind and how logically you want to tell.
Whatever happens, human beings will always have a way to structure and tell his ideas..
Go on please.
Whatever happens, human beings will always have a way to structure and tell his ideas..
Go on please.
Myza Nil Red@bagder Same, but I prefer to use vim.
Not advocating vim over emacs, I don't care, It's just my preference.
I like my headless development terminal where I can quickly switch between the manpages and my editor.
Screw all of the complicated modern IDEs, and the distracting desktop systems.
Revert to the '80s!
Tuc@bagder let this dinosaur join you too
ed(1) conference
Satu Elisa Schaeffer@bagder same, bro
manchicken moved!@bagder me too. Iโve been playing with Helix lately.
โARC@bagder ai tools are just remixed stackoverflow answers anyways
Jan Eden@bagder emacs? What's wrong with ed?
Bernd Herd@bagder I tries GPT and share your opinion. But:
Back in the 1980s I thought that way of the compilers available to me, good code needed assembly language back then.
In the 1990s I thought that way about the compiler optimizations introducing new bugs in perfectly working code.
Nowadays these things are mature. At some point in time, AI programming will also become mature. But not yet.