@joabaldwin @dragnucs
maybe this helps?
it would be lovely if Amazon ended up there
https://authorsguild.org/resource/publishers-that-have-failed-to-pay-authors-on-time/
New publishing ventures are sometimes launched with the best of intentions but not enough financial backing or good luck, then unfortunately find themselves unable to make payments. There are also unscrupulous players in the industry that try to take advantage […]
Yea, typical #Amazon.
And I hate these multiple-choice "service" forms with no "other", no "free text" and no "email".
Then these things always send you and email with some kind of issue number but not quoting what issue you raised.
You are supposed to remember and only ever have 1 issue with 1 item at the same time.
"AMAZON BULLSHIT UPDATE CONFIRMED: THEY RESELL DAMAGED BOOKS
I talked to Amazon KDP support, and here's what they told me:
Yes, they resell returned, damaged books as new. This is normal. This is expected.
Yes, the book I returned was obviously cut to the wrong size, but no one at the warehouse would know that, so they'd let it recirculate. They don't have a system to check for weight/size of items to avoid those issues, and no one on the returns side spends time checking for damage unless it's blatantly obvious at first sight, like a missing cover.
No, I won't be getting a royalty payment for those damaged/resold books, because those books are not going through KDP but through the retail department now (because I ordered them as author copies, there was no royalty involved). They will take my money, and there's nothing I can do about that, and it's not their department so they don't care at that point, not their problem anymore.
If I want damaged books to not be resold, then I should not return them for a refund.
Instead, I am to contact Amazon by phone or email (they don't provide either directly) and escalate the issue. There is no formal way to do this, I'm supposed to just open tickets and deal with extra support stuff, talk to a supervisor, provide evidence, and they can refund me for the bad books that I should at that point destroy (that's the claim; we'll see in practice). Since there is no email for the particular issue, they literally told me to open a ticket with any other department and they'll forward it internally.
Same goes for a customer who buys a bad book. They are not meant to use the
"return damaged items" form Amazon provides, but instead try to find a phone number or email so that they can escalate and get a refund without offering a return (there is no obvious or official way to do this). Probably hours of work to get their $10 or $20 back.
They promised me they'd look into the damaged batch I returned and will let me know if they are found and destroyed instead of resold. I'm afraid they probably sold them all by now, however. I have not heard back from them in 2 days.
Fuck Amazon."
I'd say this is astonishing, but Amazon really does seem set on finding new and exciting ways of screwing people over, creators, vendors, and buyers alike. Regardless, thanks for sharing this.
@joabaldwin I got an Amazon gift card for Christmas and ordered a deluxe Bob Dylan CD set with it, advertised as new, and the thing was clearly used (beat-up, no shrink wrap, multiple tears and smudges and such). I'm getting a refund but no explanation or apology.
It makes me wonder just how many types of items this is affecting.
@joabaldwin Gather the responses and lawyer up for a class action civil suit.
Bonus points if you can get news outlets to pick it up and hurt Amazons credibility and ego further.
@infinanova Oh yeah, Amazon does no checking. I made 4 attempts to order the ReGenesis TV series DVD box, and each time was sent a box of Spooks instead. Apparently someone filed them on the wrong shelf, and despite me leaving a note that I'd received SPOOKS twice before and they should please check that it's REGENESIS, they kept making the same mistake.
It's no use.

Being Danish, I don't know much of the hell that is Amazon. But they have set their claws firmly in Germany. I promised myself years ago never to do business with Amazon, and so far, I am keeping that promise.
I know it's not easy in the USA. Particularly if you want to publish and distribute your own book. There are alternatives, but that would mean you would have to give up on convenience, market or profit.
It's not easy. And I can't or won't tell anyone what to do.
All over the world, book prices have been a race to the bottom. On Amazon, an EBook isn't supposed to cost more than 1$. And many are used to physical books costing less than 10$. This won't leave much for author, printning or retail.
But it doesn't have to be that way. I just got a book this Christmas, the Alien Role Playing Game from Free League Publishing. A book that costs 45$. Not a cheap book. But so very beautiful and high quality, both in content and in printing. I love it.
Sorry about now writing my third post about this, but it matters to me. I'm 46 years old, and one of the things I decided since my last birthday is that I don't want any more badly bound or printed books. My books should be a pleasure, not only reading the words, but also holding and opening the book. No more race for the bottom.
I'm not a rich man, not at all, and I also use the library. But I want books on real paper, I want it on good paper, and I want it treated properly.