MOVED here's your periodic holiday reminder that FUCK THE SALVATION ARMY
they're a queer hate organization. don't fucking donate to them. only shoplift from their stores. tell their solicitors to eat rocks
i love the irony of people commenting on this like "stop the bible bashing! what are you doing to make a difference besides hiding behind a keyboard?"
me? vanta? girl who ceaselessly boosts every single mutual aid request on here she can find to her 4,000+ followers? what am doing to feed the poor? probably more than your local salvation army, that's for sure
NEW RULE: if you're cishet and you've donated to the salvation army in the past you owe queer people in the #MutualAid and #TransCrowdFund hashtags an equal amount
The Salvation Army's History of Anti-LGBT Discrimination
Would-be donors should consider whether "doing the most good" might mean supporting one of the many other effective and reputable charities that provide for the needy without engaging in anti-gay beliefs, policies, or political activities.
Meatwharf15@vantablack I haven’t donated to the Salvation Army, nor am I hetero, but what would you say are the best pro-queer charities? I heard that The Trevor Project and Rainbow Railroad are good options.
Kass@vantablack I am former solider of the salvation army. i apologize to everyone every christmas.
i can confirm every story ever told probably.
Sam Adeleine@vantablack Tempted to print this out and hand it to the bell-ringers.
Tofu Golem@vantablack
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
Singirankabo ابو عادل Jérôme@vantablack
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that was one of the conclusions of George Orwell's Book "Down and out in Paris and London" almost a century ago...
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that was one of the conclusions of George Orwell's Book "Down and out in Paris and London" almost a century ago...
Delta Sierra@vantablack I would rather shit in my own mouth than give the SA a penny (and I'm old enough that the logistics are worse than the end result, hello new and exciting back pain).
Angela Glansbury 🚽@vantablack
your replies are always so great for feeding my block list 😸
your replies are always so great for feeding my block list 😸
geo_bot@vantablack don't tell the bell ringers to eat rocks they are sometimes poor people being forced to do it but the organization
Virginia Holloway@geo_bot @vantablack Yes, I came here to say that. I think these are often just hourly workers struggling in a seasonal job - that is probably thankless on every level. They’re definitely not policymakers.
@vantablack
yes, tell them to eat rocks
yes, tell them to eat rocks
jarocats@vantablack Just don't yell at the supermarket checkers forced (yes, forced) to solicit donations for the Salvo at the checkstand. It's not their fault -- believe me.
Otherwise, 100% yes to your message, including the bell ringers, only sideways and with sandpaper.
Anyone offended by this hasn't the first clue of the many ways the Salvo has actively attacked queers, forever. Read up.
Tired Bunny 
@vantablack What is even that name of organization? It sounds more like some terrorist group name than charity
PassengerIt started during Prohibition times, as a group of religious ex-soldiers who would trash establishments that sold alcohol. They were defeated by a rival group of ex-soldiers who liked their booze, called the Skeleton Army.
I'm not making this up, it's amazing.
Kid Mania@vantablack
In the final analysis, no matter which way it slices out, they are a Christian organization...and all that means.
Here's an article looking at recent attempts to "reform" their image, and a good look at their anti-queer history.
https://www.thepinknews.com/2019/11/19/the-salvation-army-claimed-not-anti-lgbt-anymore/
In the final analysis, no matter which way it slices out, they are a Christian organization...and all that means.
Here's an article looking at recent attempts to "reform" their image, and a good look at their anti-queer history.
https://www.thepinknews.com/2019/11/19/the-salvation-army-claimed-not-anti-lgbt-anymore/
Daniël Franke 🏳️🌈Ah, 'tis the season. That said, totally agreed, but I was just listening to a podcast that featured the salvation army as a side character in a US cult's creation.
🏴🌲 RoboFionna 
@vantablack there's a reason the IWW used to call them the starvation army
just adrienne@0x4d6165 @vantablack Lots of leftists still call them that!
Rev. Bussy Body of The Church of America MLM and Shooting Club@0x4d6165 @vantablack not to be confused with the Skeleton Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeleton_Army
TransitBiker@vantablack where’s the salivating army?
Bat Shark Repellant@vantablack Canadian here:
Did you mean "solicitors", like their lawyers, or the people who ask you for money?
Did you mean "solicitors", like their lawyers, or the people who ask you for money?
Ghost 🏳️🌈@batshark @vantablack The latter (American here).
Now I want to tell their lawyers to eat rocks anyway.
@batshark @vantablack she definitely means the bell-ringers, people engaging in solicitation.
@batshark It means that in the US too, but it was clear what OP meant in context.
But the holiday season can get so much weirder than what you expect....
RuthLInCalifornia@vantablack I don’t agree with shoplifting at all. Otherwise, I agree with the rest of what you said.
@vantablack Do you have any recent examples of discrimination? All I can find is from 2017 or earlier (not doubting your assertion, just looking for more data, too).
Max@vantablack @LeDiva Related reminder: Don’t forget that Angel Tree is just Salvation Army with a cuter brand name (and just as much a hate organization with no scruples)
SLCW💥@vantablack For real, never give those bell ringers anything. They may or may not be great individuals, but they're associated with a bigoted organization that ultimately exists to promote Jesus.
@vantablack believe me, I don't donate to them.
Tricot Feelya@vantablack in my hometown we had a salvation Army General who was convicted of embezzling money from the organization. I haven’t given to them in decades. And always pissed me off that some of my employers leaned on us to donate.
BoneHouseWasps🔶🇬🇧🇪🇺@vantablack Fuck yeah. If you're into podcast recommendations (people still do that, right?) - this week's Behind the Bastards (Part One: Holy Rollers Sex Cult) is Sally Army adjacent and worth a listen.
Seán Fenian@vantablack They're also christofascists.
Nici@vantablack @celesteh wait shit are they called hailsarmee in german countries? Man I love shopping there for second hand stuff...
@vantablack @celesteh Yeah apparently its the same thing :(
Die Heilsarmee ist eine christliche Freikirche mit ausgeprägter sozialer Tätigkeit. Sie nahm im Jahr 1865 in London ihren Anfang und verbreitete sich ab den 1880er Jahren schrittweise über die ganze Welt. Seit 2018 ist sie in 131 Ländern vertreten.[2] Sie ist Mitglied der Weltweiten Evangelischen Allianz.[3]
Especially that last link says they're part of the WEA which has made really fucking shitty statements about queers in the past
@adrienne @vantablack @celesteh
For Fucks Sake.
Brosephine Wires@vantablack BADDDDD PLACE
Julian (they/he) 
@vantablack While I parted ways with them over 20 years ago and definitely have issues with them, I feel obliged to say that my personal experience was that the vast majority of Salvationists do not fit that description. By all means don't donate, and call out what they do wrong, but don't blame the ordinary people who happen to be members for the bigotry of a minority who happen to have some power within the organisation.
GrouchyHydra@vantablack they tried sending us a christmas card because the wife of a family friend signed us all up on her money for some reason or other.
We opened it solely to check what it was made of in case there was plastic- because we were putting it straight in recycling.