Okay scratch that. Give me a desktop monitor recommendation that is at least 4K, 27”, ideally not grossly matte, has HDMI out, and bonus points for built in speakers
@christianselig Not trying to be pedantic; you mean HDMI **in**, yes?

@caseyliss but it comes out of the monitor

(… yes)

@christianselig @caseyliss Yeah, don’t give him the satisfaction. The didactic and pedantic son of a bitch!
@caseyliss @christianselig Casey, I think what you meant to say was you weren’t trying to be either “didactic or pedantic”?
@caseyliss @christianselig it’s like the Xbox One with HDMI in and out
@christianselig as someone who has been looking for close to a year now: there is exactly one glossy 4k 27" monitor and it’s the dough spectrum one. there is just the problem that they are an unreliable company that had shipping problems in the past. https://euro.dough.tech/products/spectrum-4k-144hz
Spectrum One

@hagen @christianselig Don’t buy one of these, it’s a scam! I got one with a one-month-shipment guarantee and a full year after happily taking my money no monitor ever showed up, even after having the displeasure of going back and fourth with their awful customer service constantly saying simply false things. They even changed their name (used to be Eve spectrum) so people wouldn’t find out about how it’s a scam. I finally was able to reverse the charge with my bank and prove it was a scam, and ponied up for a studio monitor instead. I used to say it was over priced - but I don’t anymore, its so worth the money, picture quality (especially contrast) is so much better than the LG 5K I had before and its all in glossy glory.
@christianselig wait for the 4K OLEDs that come out in January.
@party 27" size? :o
@christianselig oh darn just the 32in is announced. I know a 27in panel is in the pipeline though… eventually
@christianselig assuming you meant hdmi in, I just bought a cheap Dell monitor, S2722QC. Bonus points, it also has usb-c in with PD, and two usb-a ports, so it replaced a hub as well
@adrianm @christianselig I also just bought this one. It’s great!
@adrianm @christianselig I bought this one a month ago and I am very happy with it.
@christianselig I'd say the Samsung ViewFinity S9 would be a drop-in replacement, but I am not sure if the USB-C ports can take an HDMI signal in (I assume that's what you want, not HDMI out)
@christianselig I have a 42 lg c2 oled on my deck and I love having the sheer size and options that 4k gives you. Also don’t have to worry about ultra wide compatibility with any games.
@bwech For normal work though the pixels are the size of baseballs ;_;
@christianselig I’ve got a pair of LG 27UP850N monitors and they’re pretty great - loads of connectivity and not crazy money either :)

@christianselig https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27up850n-w-4k-uhd-monitor

The bezels are much smaller than the pictures make them look, too!

27” IPS 4K UHD VESA HDR400 Monitor - 27UP850N-W | LG USA

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@christianselig 16:9 or 16:10, not ultra wide?

@christianselig Ape Studio Display checks nearly all those boxes, though you would need an HDMI <-> Thunderbolt/USB-C cable since it only has Thunderbolt/USB-C.

It works with both Mac and PC. (I own one and share between both)

Alienware 34 Inch Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - AW3423DWF | Dell USA

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@christianselig this doesn’t match what you’re after, but I only got this today after upgrading from a very old 27” 4K LG and can’t resist sharing. Only had a few hours with it so far, but there’s so much room for activities

@christianselig After waiting an unreasonably long time for a good "affordable" 5K monitor, I settled on this 4K Dell. It’s the higher end of their monitor lines, not overly matte, good quality display. I use it and a retina Macbook screen at the same time without noticing much difference. (No speaker, but has HDMI and USB-C output.)

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-27-4k-usb-c-hub-monitor-u2723qe/apd/210-bdpf/monitors-monitor-accessories

Dell UltraSharp 27 Inch 4K USB-C Hub Computer Monitor - U2723QE | Dell USA

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Dell UltraSharp 32 Inch 4K Computer Monitor - U3223QE | Dell USA

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@christianselig the spectrum monitors from dough are solid. The 27” OLED one looks great but I’m happy with the IPS version too. I implore you to get a monitor soundbar or something instead of relying on built in speakers though, no one but Apple does a good job with them. https://www.dough.tech/products/spectrum-black
Spectrum Black

@christianselig My Acer Predators have been serving me well for 8 years now, they're matte but the color is excellent, HDMI/DP and have speakers.
@christianselig I have two BenQs PD2705U. They have HDMI, DP and USB-C ports for input, built in speakers (but very low quality, Mac Studio speaker sounds much better)

@christianselig HDMI out? What do you use that for?

Otherwise the recent LG OLED TVs actually make incredible 4k monitors for a great price. You need a pretty big desk though.

@christianselig tacking on to this, I’ve got a 42” LG c3. Its

- 4k120hz
- OLED
- supports variable refresh rate with GSync and FreeSync
- Has pretty decent speakers
- 3 HDMI ins
- 1ms response time
- can be color calibrated to very high accuracy. (But is pretty good out of the box).

I use it for my PC for gaming and my MacBook Pro for work.

Tacking on a review here https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c3-oled

LG C3 OLED Review (OLED42C3PUA, OLED48C3PUA, OLED55C3PUA, OLED65C3PUA, OLED77C3PUA, OLED83C3PUA)

The LG C3 OLED is the mid-range model in LG's 2023 OLED lineup, sitting above the entry-level OLED 'B' series LG B3 OLED and below the 'Gallery Style' LG G3 OLED...

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@Charrondev Yeah they're pretty low DPI though unfortunately

@christianselig the key is either using a deep desk or wall mounting it.

I use a pretty slim wall mount and have a moderately deep desk.

It’s larger so you sit a little further back and the perceived DPI is the same as if you were closer to a 27” display.

I use mine with a 16” MacBook Pro most of the time and really can’t say I notice the DPI difference although again a deep desk (or desk a little ways away from the screen wall mounted ) is key to that.

@christianselig not 27” but I’ve found ultrawides incredible for productivity and gaming. If that sounds nice to you maybe consider the LG 5k2k ultrawide?
@via I've been tempted by those! I mostly want it for my PS5 though and I don't think it supports ultrawide ;_;
@christianselig ah that’s too bad 🥲 it really is a nice monitor haha
@christianselig viewsonic vg2781-5k, the alternative of Apple studio display, but is not available globally yet.

@christianselig The LG Ultragear is what you want. Should tick every box although it does have anti-glare.

https://a.co/d/3bMNAlP

Amazon.com

@christianselig whatever you do, don't buy a Samsung smart monitor. (I say that as someone who works there and bought one)
@christianselig the firmware is the buggiest thing I have ever purchased. The UI is terrible, to the point where they hide your HDMI/DP ports in a submenu and have no input button on the remote. Then off course there the intrusive advertising/data collection. I turn off wifi on it unless checking for a firmware update. I should have bought a non-Samsung monitor that uses the same panel and paid more, cause using my Samsung employee discount and the savings were not worth it.
@christianselig that said, the QD-OLED panel is gorgeous and you'd love how it's glossy. If you want it though, the Alienware is a better option than the G8 that uses the same panel.(Don't know if the Alienware is matte or glossy though)
@christianselig sounds nerdy but I have an MSI monitor that has everything, is under $1K and I use it to edit photos professionally. Colors are great.