And the winner of the Dutch election is... The Dutch Media. They've spent decades hyping up every right wing racist party, allowing them to say the most outrageous things without any fact checking at all. The public has now given the most votes to a racist linked to Putin. I'm ashamed.
#tk2023 #DutchPolitics
@hembrow Less than 25% of the total vote, but still, highly embarrassing for the country that this has proved possible.
@villavelius Indeed. I don't see how any other party can actually work with Wilders as premier. He's obviously a walking disaster zone. So hopefully we'll end up with a coalition consisting of more level heads, excluding pvv.
@hembrow In a situation like this, the notion of equating democracy with elections needs re-evaluating.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30957274-against-elections
Gegen Wahlen: Warum Abstimmen nicht demokratisch ist

Wahlen sind ein primitives Instrument mit einer verrรผckโ€ฆ

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@villavelius Political jury duty is definitely something I've been thinking of as an anti-dote to this marketing driven election cycle. I just don't think people are going to want it.

Anyway, Maurice de Hond is the architect behind the PVV's victory.
Further, Omtzigt now holds the key for a far right coalition if he is willing or not.

@tesmaia People probably don't want it, I agree. It may have to do with something that has been called the 'ignorance bias'. When it comes to elections, the idea that the gut is the second brain is highly plausible. And that second brain guides voting behaviour in large parts of the electorate, it seems.
@hembrow Ugh, that's really disappointing to hear, especially after hearing the news of Argentina electing a dangerous bozo.
@dgodon Given the history of right wing politicians doing things like throwing people out of aircraft in Argentina you might think they'd know better to go back down that path.
@hembrow you can say much. But wilders isnt connected to putin. Thats baudet.
@hembrow oke. But when baudet speaks about praising putin. The whole 2nd chaimber including wilders left.
@bdiederik @hembrow Wilders shook hands with Putin after MH17. Heโ€™s against support to Ukraine.

@marian @hembrow he is against a lot.

But i missed that shake hands memo.

@hembrow

Thank you, as this is spot on!

Shame on them...

@hembrow

Itโ€™s almost as if there was some sort of world-wide plot to bring Fascism back.

Or humans are just incredibly stupid.

Actively Evil or Terminally Stupid, you make the call.

@hembrow Fuck! The whole world is going mad.

@hembrow Together with other far right parties, they hold about 24% of the 150 seats. Then there are the #populist and #conservative right who are veiled racists. They hold about 40% of all the seats.

All in all, about 2/3 of the voters are just awful #climatecrisis denying #fascist leaning #racist people IMO.

We'll see if a cabinet full of grifting clowns can be formed. The other larger parties have indicated they do not want to work with #PVV but that is absolutely no guarantee.

@hembrow
They saw the success of these disgusting tactics in America and the UK.
@hembrow Bad governments are really good for media sales. I'm sure it's behind a lot of what's happened in the UK. And, I guess, the US

@ambrosen @hembrow the problem adds up. most media is right-wing because capitalist assholes pay good money to influence the public narrative, which means there are more right-wing media because it pays well, and enabled wider reach by saturated market and superior marketing budget to spread it.

media needs to be funded through taxes and media companies need to operate as a politically neutral nonprofit, and any "donation" or otherwise needs to be illegal. this includes social media.

@hembrow

One word: Argentina

(More words: Trump 2016, Brexit, Orban, Project 2025)

@hembrow
I always got the impression local media and by extension the politicians demonized PVV over the years. They thought they were painting it in a bad light, but instead giving his dumb ideas airtime.

So when PVV became more moderate in its messaging and there were Palestinian flags everywhere all the time, you don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind was blowing.

While everybody on fedi is coping, its not the end of the world. Just keep your heads cool and carry on.

@hembrow condolences to the Dutch, sad times ahead
@hembrow So the status quo pretty much everywhere in the world these days. :(
@hembrow

Outrage sells. Modern professional media, worldwide, is willing to sell out the future for a few extra clicks today.
@hembrow Same shit here in Belgium next year.
@hembrow
If the media take them seriously then they must be a serious and relevant possibility. Even if they aren't.

@hembrow I have no knowledge of the Dutch situation, but here in the US, it's more than just the media.

1) Fascism (and Communism, too) are just an older generation's taboos. Sort of like the f-bomb when I was growing up, people don't respect old taboos. The problems with fascism are now vague.

2) Loud, strident insensitivity towards the pain of working class and rural people disadvantaged by progress. Too large a portion of the population has seen their way of life crushed.

@hembrow " The Dutch Media... spent decades hyping up every right wing racist party, allowing them to say the most outrageous things without any fact checking at all."
Seems to be the corporate/commercial media business plan everywhere

@hembrow #neoliberalism leads to #fascism

#neoliberalism leads to #fascism

#neoliberalism leads to #fascism

#neoliberalism leads to #fascism
#neoliberalism abolishes institutions that can solve real problems, by handing over essential state coordination to the highest bidder.
Then when problems come they cant be solved since coordination ability has vanished.
On top of that oligopolies have So much power they can stop any meaningful change

#neoliberalism leads to #fascism

@hembrow Any chance of the other parties growing a spine and refusing to work with the nazis?
@androcat The sensible people have already said they won't work with him. But other right wing parties might do so. I'm fairly confident that any coalition that Wilders can possibly make would fall apart, but I'm still going to have to walk along streets where a quarter of the people voted for a fascist.

@hembrow that really sucks.

We're all in similar boats, as well.

We need to figure out a way to unhack our media machines, that have so woefully betrayed the democracy that allowed them in the first place.

@hembrow I think we canโ€™t just blame the media. The media didnโ€™t vote, the people did. And why they voted like this is the true mystery. Itโ€™s not because they are stupid, itโ€™s not because they are all racists.
This is happening all over the planet: Populism is back. From the US to Hungary, people have a unbelievable ability blaming outsiders for their problems.
Letโ€™s just wait and see how #geertwilders will fuck this up.

@IngenieurStefan Obviously no-one is blaming "just" the media. But having a media which organises a circus around every new right wing party, which they see as amusing, and which almost never bothers to do fact checks even of the most outrageous claims, inevitably leads the public towards supporting those parties.

We've seen it again and again: Fortuyn, Verdonk, Wilders, Baudet, van der Plas. All of them normalized and enabled by our media, which made them far larger than they ever could have become on their own.

It's relentless. Last year's TV series about Pim Fortuyn, for instance, brought his ideas back into mainstream again 20 years after his death.

You're right that the same kind of thing is happening worldwide, but it's happening elsewhere for much the same reason as it is happening here. Brexit in the UK, for instance, was enabled by media controlled by right-wing interests who presented the most ridiculous claims as if they were valid. Nigel Farage was amongst those treated as a celebrity on the TV. This led many average people to vote against their own interests.

@hembrow The media plays a role, but I think the underlying issue is different.
Iโ€™m curious to see how resilient Dutch society and democracy is to this non-democratic rascist.
@hembrow As occasional visitors we always thought the Netherlands was the best example of a western nation gone right. Equally shocked and horrified. We thought they had more sense.