I already explained the main differences between most packaging formats, but now, it’s time to look at them in a more critical manner:
Performance benchmarks, missing features, advantages and drawbacks, for #Snaps, #Flatpak, #AppImage and regular good old packages:
@thelinuxEXP
One big issue that you didn't mention (or I just missed it) is that you have no control over a snap. If a permission or the like is messed up in a flatpak, you can fine tune it till it works. Sure you're breaking the sandbox, but it at least works.
With snaps, if something is broken, it remains broken until the developer does something about it.
Also now flatpak theming is decent in KDE at least. Adwaita app by design are hard to customize, but the rest isn't difficult.
@thelinuxEXP
Oh I wasn't aware of that. I'm surprised it isn't talked about more. I've heard many people saying how snaps aren't meant to be modified by the user.
I even encountered an issue with the nextcloud snap that apparently couldn't be fixed due snaps making it hard to modify stuff. But that was probably a limitation of the system rather than snaps don't allow any permission changes.
Hei Nick!
Why do you use a youtube link on the fediverse when you have the same video on neat.tube??? Isnt it better to use the possibility to let people see the alternative to youtube??
Othervise thank you for a lot of good videos from a Linux-user (3 years now) on a Tuxedo-machine, who cant use the terminal bit have no problem using a Linuxmachine. I can very little terminal, but every year I start my PC from scratch with a new installion, for security reasons.
@gikkogkom Unfortunately, none of these other platforms let me make a living, so YouTube will be the link I share the most until that’s an option :/
I’d love to share Peertube links only, but a lot of people don’t find it very usable yet, and it would actually hurt the channel in the long run, and the business I built around it.
@thelinuxEXP
Of course!! I was forgetting thats your living and your business.
Sorry!
I hope you can continue, but i mus admit that i am worried for people living on producing on Youtube in the long run 5 or more years in the future.....
@rohden Yeah, I guess you could do that, but it still wouldn’t be enough: a lot of my views on YouTube come from people who aren’t subscribers, so they either don’t know the channel ou know it but don’t follow it.
Peertube just doesn’t have that reach and discovery capability, so it just wouldn’t generate enough, unfortunately. I hope we’ll be able to find a way to make these alternative platforms appealing in the future though!
@thelinuxEXP
Are you sure that the firefox (and all its dependencys) versions where exacly the same for all installation methods?
Ireally don't know how the results of the speedometer benchmark could be explained differently...
@thelinuxEXP Something you didn't mention is offline installs. Basically it's very easy to create a USB / DVD / BD for all Debian packages based on a distro version, and you can apt install, which will ask you to insert the right media. I think RPM etc have the same feature.
Flatpak et al, I believe, are online only. You can technically put together a flatpak side-load thingie but I have no idea how plausible that is in reality.
@bakuninboys In general, Linux is a system that isn’t made for offline. Sure, you can make an ISO with packages, but it’s really not something you should do, because if you don’t have internet access, you’ll never be able to apply an update in the future, which you should always do to stay up to date.
So I wouldn’t consider this crucial, as Linux distros arw really not made to be used without a very regular internet connection.
@thelinuxEXP If you don't have the internet, you have no reason to stay up to date.
There are plenty of contexts, including embedded systems or remote systems, which cannot exist along the internet. The "internet-in-a-box" is an obvious example. These sorts of niches is where Linux thrives, and these need offline packaging systems.
@thelinuxEXP flatpak ftw,
I hope, haven't seen the video yet 
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