An appellate judge in Washington state just ensured that I will never buy or rent a vehicle without CarPlay. The auto industry continues to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot.
https://therecord.media/class-action-lawsuit-cars-text-messages-privacy
@Timekeeper @JetForMe @chockenberry It’s more about the structure of CarPlay. It doesn’t necessarily provide the car access to anything. The UI is rendered as a video on the phone which the car simply plays. The car could still record what you say and what Siri says, then run its own speech-to-text, but it can’t just dump your whole address book.
This issue is because so many car manufacturers write their own UIs to present phone stuff in a standardized form. They use Bluetooth MAP, PBAP, and other things to dump categories of structured data which they store. They then display the data from their local storage in the car manufacturer’s UI. It’s how they integrate with non-smartphones, for example.
@gadgetgav Messages are end to end encrypted between devices. There is no way to access them externally either.
I believe contacts can be shared after consent, but that’s it.
@joe CarPlay requires inputs from the vehicle. Microphone for Siri, buttons for navigation, etc.
And nothing is stopping you from mounting phone on dash and using it standalone.
@chockenberry Did not even know this was a thing — holy hell! Of course, Mozilla warned us a while ago:
> We reviewed 25 car brands in our research and we handed out 25 “dings” for how those companies collect and use data and personal information. That’s right: every car brand we looked at collects more personal data than necessary and uses that information for a reason other than to operate your vehicle and manage their relationship with you.
@chockenberry and here I was thinking murder bot’s corporate overlords were fictional
I have no idea why anyone ever connected their phone to their car. The built-in display should either be a dumb-as-shit display mirror, or completely self sufficient.
My car doesn't need to know what my phone is doing.
@AlexanderESmith @chockenberry cars are often packaged in a way that getting GPS navigation built-in costs $3000+ more than the base model.
I don't know why Apple fans are so convinced the company is morally upright and will protect them, but I am pretty confident they will be really unpleasantly surprised at some point. None of us mean anything to any corporation save as things to extract money from.
Honestly, I'd rather just 3D print a nice phone mount. I have a Fold3, so the screen has plenty of room for a map.
Let the car's built in screen manage my A/C and satellite radio. TPMS and Odometer. Etc.
@chockenberry Reading the article, it appears that the court’s ruling was limited to a question of state law in Washington only. It would not apply in states with more robust privacy laws. 
I’d be interested to see results from other states.
@chockenberry For example, interception of text messages without consent may violate Florida’s wiretap law. 
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