At the end of the day, COVID-19 made people realize:

- They could work from home and that most offices are shitty places.

- Their job was really shitty.

- Governments could finance pretty much anything they wanted.

- Global warming could be stopped.

- The really important jobs were the ones that are the worst paid (nurses, for instance).

- Most governments are run by idiots, who are in the pocket of the wealthiest.

@ParadeGrotesque And that many governments are wholly unprepared to face a real crisis.
@ParadeGrotesque @dialect I certainly know bunches of people who learned those things. I don’t think most people learned much of anything, though.
@IPEdmonton @ParadeGrotesque @dialect to be fair "live and don't learn" seems to be standard, which is rather depressing

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What people might know in their hearts, what they know but won’t admit to themselves, mean nothing if the incentives and coercive systems don’t change.

@DavidM_yeg @ParadeGrotesque @dialect I don’t think most people are in the “know in their hearts, won’t admit to themselves” place, though. I certainly know bunches of those too (some of them from here), but they too are the minority.

@ParadeGrotesque @IPEdmonton @dialect

You may be right 🤷‍♂️ … I hope you’re wrong; bc it’s people who quietly know truths, even ones they can’t acknowledge yet, that are people who will be able to significantly and fairly quickly shift their lives / behaviours once the incentives change.
I know that even in ‘liberal’ Edmonton, the social pressure of Alberta culture is strongly against letting people know you have doubts about the status quo.

@DavidM_yeg I think in Edmonton, the majority is people like my students, who won’t wear masks because they genuinely think it’s no longer necessary, not out of libertarianism. But they will always take a squirt of the hand sanitizer another instructor left in the classroom as they enter it. You know, to protect themselves and others. 🙃

@DavidM_yeg @ParadeGrotesque @IPEdmonton @dialect

when I've tried to enlighten conservative friends, I'm "just showing off how educated and politically correct" I am. They enjoy the status quo.

@darwinwoodka @DavidM_yeg @ParadeGrotesque @IPEdmonton @dialect If this is about learning and knowing, what’s become very obvious is the only “success” a platform of fear ignorance and prejudice can offer is more extreme fear ignorance and prejudice. Those most vulnerable to this, who’s well-being isn’t propped up with fear & ignorance will change and move given the opportunity.

@pinhman @darwinwoodka @DavidM_yeg @ParadeGrotesque @IPEdmonton @dialect

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

--Upton Sinclair

@ParadeGrotesque I think I disagree with this...

- government can finance whatever short term project they want. Don't think you can just spend indefinitely. But there's certainly a few one-off projects that they could fund to make a big impact on climate change.

- the people doing the "important jobs" are still getting the shaft, and the grifters are still getting rich, so I guess no one cares?

@steve

See some of my previous posts: politicians can finance pretty much anything they want, as long as they are willing to tax the wealthiest.

Since they are now in the pocket of the wealthiest, they won't tax the hand that feeds them.

Also, people may have realized that nurses, janitors, delivery people, etc... Are the ones holding society together and doing real work. But politicians are still unwilling to tax the rich, hence nothing has changed.

@ParadeGrotesque "they are now in the pocket of the wealthiest" -- pray tell me when that /wasn't/ the case 😂​
@steve @ParadeGrotesque If you have the opportunity, read "The Deficit Myth" by Prof. Stephanie Kelton for a clear explanation of how government finance really works, and why so many politicians don't want to change. I'd also recommend "Doughnut Economics" by Prof. Kate Raworth for a view of how things could be made to work better for everyone...

@ParadeGrotesque It may have made people *realise* these things, but we don't seem to have *learned* any of them.

_sigh_

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last but mist important:
Most governments are run by idiots, who are in the pocket of the wealthiest.
And thats only possible because we sheeps are electing them. 🐑
@ParadeGrotesque it also showed a lot of women that their husbands don’t actually like them, and that they are actively choosing not to participate with the family. Take away all that extra “busy stuff” that kept them away from home, and they lost their minds.
They realized that it’s not that he doesn’t have time, it’s that he doesn’t want to so he won’t.
@ParadeGrotesque yet our leaders still seem to have learned nothing. In the early days of the pandemic I figured the covid experience would prepare us for the next pandemic, but I think in some ways we're worse off now than in 2019.
@ParadeGrotesque Global warming CAN be stopped - if it ISN'T stopped, that will be because the governments run by idiots in the pockets of the wealthy (especially the wealthy with shares in the fossil fuel industry) are FAR more concerned with THEIR interests than those of the rest of us!

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I believe that many already forgot all of this... 

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- most governments don't give a shit about actually keeping people healthy and safe

@ParadeGrotesque Then there was that whole BLM thing, where people were reminded that police control the governments of all major US cities, and liberals mumbled until they could go back to increasing funding for police.

One of the things people leave out of a lot of political analysis, for the US or for a lot of places, is that most people don't willingly support governments; they feel helpless and afraid in the face of them.

Because states are based on violence and threats of violence.

@ParadeGrotesque I have a really hard time forgiving people for the widespread abandonment of masking, though. That is within their power and they're not doing the absolute bare minimum of solidarity.

@foolishowl @ParadeGrotesque I have always had mixed feeling with the "defund the police" slogans.

I mean, I would like more police women/men. But I would like less cameras, drones and weaponized police and more actual human beings with empathy / training / psychological assessment/following. It might cost more in the end in term of money, but less in term of violence.

If anything, I feel safer with more unarmed or very lightly armed police presence, patrolling by foot, bicycle or horses, multitasking by offering other services like helping elders crossing a street, giving out directions to people, etc, than police cars full of assault weapons.

@oook @ParadeGrotesque You are absolutely not safer with police around.

It's not a simple matter of poor training or an oversupply of weapons. Police are a major power bloc. They literally control city governments.

There have been many efforts at police reform. Police routinely ignore rules they don't like. The reform efforts simply feed more cash into police budgets. New police officers who object to the behavior of other police are pressured to resign, at least.

@foolishowl @oook @ParadeGrotesque
Agreed that police mostly do not help.
We would be better off to separate the jobs police do and give most of them to people without guns. But police like that they get money to do all of those things, however badly, and they will throw a fit when this gets suggested. And there are almost no elected officials willing to tell the police we don't want them; politicians are much more likely to seek police endorsement than to withdraw their funding.

Somehow "defund the police" never actually got action, but "fund police more" took off with ease, even while it was based in part on the lie that police were actually defunded at some point.

@foolishowl @oook @ParadeGrotesque It's been interesting watching people react to the UK policing of the peace demonstrations where the police mostly stood around even even when facing a small subset of angry people waving obnoxious placards. Their priority is to protect life and property. They are also well aware that most of the troublemakers would have turned up to any march to try and have a fight. Not that ours are great the Met still has a sideline in rapists and beating up black people
@etchedpixels @oook @ParadeGrotesque I think there's some lasting influence from the different historical origins of police in the US and UK, though there's a lot of convergence.
@ParadeGrotesque what I hate is how little difference it made. Because the people in power have put all of it against resisting change.
@ParadeGrotesque @tantramar Nothing like challenging times to reveal how competent/incompetent your government is.
@MichaelPorter @ParadeGrotesque @tantramar When the times are good, you don't need to be competent since everything Just Works. ​ I guess you just need to be competent enough not to touch things that work; that's the baseline.
@ParadeGrotesque Also that the people that charged from people doing hours at some random office and said that we could bot work from home, found a way to remote work as soon as they needed it

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- There are lots of gullible (or just stupid) people* out there that have pushed their own bullshit version of “facts” on others. And other gullible (or just stupid) people believed them. More people died because of this.

* Ant-vaxxers, 5G freaks, right-wing nut-jobs, red hat wearing morons, etc.

@ParadeGrotesque Then the people who most people now realise are idiots, clapped their hands and told us we are all lazy slackers because we can't forget everything we learned in 2020.
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sure that...and like %50 of the population are complete kooks who would rather believe wacky conspiracy theories than deal with minor convinces.
@ParadeGrotesque And knowing all this still "the world" wanted to "get back to normal" (so shitty, soul, life, earth destroying capitalism) as soon as possible.
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Yes. So you would find a lot of agreement and positive ideas in the community-sourced Recovery Plan for London
JustSpace.org.uk/recovery
@ParadeGrotesque But what about the people that worked duo the pandemic as a cook, farmer, baker, bus driver, etc…
@ParadeGrotesque Lūk! Un vēl, ka krīzes laikā var pieņemt riktīgi trakus lēmumus :D
Like atceraties, mums bija fucking nakts curfew pret infekcijas slimību :D
@ParadeGrotesque People forget really quickly under the influence of propaganda. It's so successful, I wish it wasn't almost always used for evil (perhaps those with ethics find the methods of propaganda too repugnant?).
@ParadeGrotesque CV19 just showed how 'kin pathetic leaders were! Clutching their stolen & grifted booty public CA$H, all claimed under the cover of a pandemic! Sick & sad? Yeah Plus: not many realised the right, Tories, republicans & their lackeys, MSM (like Mudroach & Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere, is a British peer like Rupie is a non dom IE NO TAX PAID!)
Do many know these no nothings & hate! grifters etc still hate them! THAT MUCH!

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- That disasters are golden opportunities for disaster capitalism and corruption.

- That there's a misinformation industry, pumped up by a large part of the mainstream media, that sells lies.

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…and then everyone forgot all that and went back to how things used to be. Mostly because the government likes you spending money and managers like to keep their eye on you 👁️

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- What a Labour government in NZ could achieve when cut off from its focus groups.

@ParadeGrotesque Very true! Also people learned that they don't have to put up with a shitty situation. We can fight back!
@ParadeGrotesque I mostly agree except 4th point : people don't give a shit about global warming. See all these SUV in the streets, planes in the sky and air conditioning systems on houses... Mass growing markets !