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HiramFromTheChi 👨🏽💻💭Any device that needs to be off because it can't be trusted with your conversations should not exist in the first place.
#privacy #privacymatters #security #infosec #cybersecurity #cybersec #amazon #amazonecho #surveillance
Dark and and Stormy@hiramfromthechi Any company that produces a device that needs to be off because this company can't be trusted with your conversations should not exist in the first place.
#digital #privacy
#digital #privacy
@darkandandstormy fixed it for me. Thanks. 😉
zl2tod@hiramfromthechi
Where muted means immersed in a bucket of water.
Where muted means immersed in a bucket of water.
@zl2tod and launched into eternal space
D1g1talDrag0n@hiramfromthechi that is literally every cell phone at the least but no one seems to care. Google makes quite the living off of such things.
@D1g1talDrag0n the game is: make it an integral part of enough people's lives to where people will willingly give up their—and by default, everyone else's—fundamental human rights.
conmy@hiramfromthechi definitely shouldn't exist in the workplace at the very least.
@conmy broadly speaking, "workplace" is one thing. A healthcare facility with highly sensitive information? That's another level.
Kostiantyn Sharykin@hiramfromthechi what is Amazon Echo? 👀
@hunterlan a privacy-invading surveillance device
Pen@hiramfromthechi Wow, thanks for sharing this. Do you have more details on the context of this photo, where it came from, etc?
@nacly I don't, perhaps someone else here will
@nacly perhaps related: https://techhub.social/@groink/111256163122811061
Groink (@[email protected])
@[email protected] Some clarification may be offered by this article: https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/digital-health/amazon-shuts-down-support-alexa-hipaa-compliant-programs-hospitals-payers Also concerning is Amazon's foray into healthcare. If the state of Amazon's commercial retail business is any indication... https://www.vnews.com/Dartmouth-Health-Connect-sees-changes-52345852
James Purser@hiramfromthechi @nacly not about this photo but a similar trial.
Hafa Airhead 
Oh, come on. Next, you're gonna say that we shouldn't have one in the Pentagon or something, aren't you?
@Hafa_Airhead I really hope you're trolling 🤣
@hiramfromthechi trolling? back when I was stationed at Ft Meade, we had these things in every office.
It was so convenient to have an electronic assistant there to answer our questions. Especially when it came to the random tidbits we would hear about Russia.
(Ok, honestly, I'm joking).
@Hafa_Airhead ahaha I just had to make sure
Lizard@hiramfromthechi "Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move."
@LizardSF lip to word transcription using AI 👀
Kevin Karhan 
@hiramfromthechi +9001%
This shitty #Govware is #Stasi-esque bs and a waste of electricity, spectrum, bandwith and money.
Also note that #AllGafamsAreEvil and #AllGafamsAreSnitches as we know from the #PRISM program...
Orca 🌻 | 🎀 | 🪁 | 🏴🏳️⚧️@hiramfromthechi Damn why would someone install Amazon Echo in a room where patient info could be discussed by someone.
Dogzilla@hiramfromthechi @eyrea Video game consoles, your phone, your tv, your router, your smarthome, maybe your fridge, definitely your car
@hiramfromthechi @eyrea I spent a decade in online advertising. Everything I listed is a bigger privacy/security leak than an Amazon smart speaker. Trust me on this.
Lawrence@hiramfromthechi especially in a healthcare setting!
FlamerHooks@hiramfromthechi not exist in that space.
Jimmyjamm@hiramfromthechi I'm thinking of selling my Google hubs. Such a letdown
@jimmyjamm de-Google your life ✌️
leemeade@hiramfromthechi
Ordered one when they first came out. Never took it out of the box. Sent it back.
Ordered one when they first came out. Never took it out of the box. Sent it back.
@leemeade did yourself and everyone around you a huge favor
@hiramfromthechi
Yup. I don’t use voice control on my phone (Pixel) either.
Yup. I don’t use voice control on my phone (Pixel) either.
themeccles@hiramfromthechi The phone you used to make this post, does the same thing. So should we be leaving our phones at home?
@themeccles not all surveillance is created equal.
@hiramfromthechi Not sure I agree. Phones can do a lot more than we give them credit for. I Googled something on my work laptop, and later in the day, I saw ads on FB on my phone for the very thing I had Goigled earlier that day, from my work laptop. I think in this case, it’s all created equal.
My phone has also picked up on my conversations even when I’m not using it. All of these tech gadgets are set up that way.
Hojjat 
@hiramfromthechi
At least Amazon Echo has a button to disable the microphone (and it works, speaking as an engineer). The same cannot be said about the phone that took the photo! The patient's phone, the doctor's phone.
At least Amazon Echo has a button to disable the microphone (and it works, speaking as an engineer). The same cannot be said about the phone that took the photo! The patient's phone, the doctor's phone.
Rob 
@hiramfromthechi Dang it - I was just about to put Siri in the SCIF 😩
Verena Traubinger@hiramfromthechi Ich hab mal mit nem älteren Ehepaar gesprochen, die skeptisch waren, weil Alexa ja Gespräche mithören kann. Deswegen haben sie das Gerät aus der Küche verbannt.
Ins Bad.
Ins Bad.
Chuck@hiramfromthechi from what I have observed they mainly use echo for the timer feature. “Alexa, let me know when it’s been 1 minute” or whatever. Which shows that there’s a niche market for voice activated timers.
Anders Puck Nielsen@hiramfromthechi What does “muted” mean in this context? Shouldn't it be off entirely?
@anderspuck that's part of the issue here.. they're equating "muted" with "isn't listening," which isn't the same thing.
If something is muted, it means it's not producing volume. But just cause it's not producing volume doesn't mean it's not listening.
If it's "muted" in the sense that it can't hear you, there's still no way to confirm this is actually the case.
These devices are always "passively" listening anyways, which means they're listening for the "wake" word to "actively" listen. 👁️👁️
Andreas K@hiramfromthechi And you trust the "mute button"?
@yacc143 I wouldn't, no.
K. N. Brindle (they/them)@hiramfromthechi And WTF is it doing in a medical environment in the first place?
@knbrindle idk if it's related to this, but sharing in case: https://techhub.social/@groink/111256163122811061
Groink (@[email protected])
@[email protected] Some clarification may be offered by this article: https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/digital-health/amazon-shuts-down-support-alexa-hipaa-compliant-programs-hospitals-payers Also concerning is Amazon's foray into healthcare. If the state of Amazon's commercial retail business is any indication... https://www.vnews.com/Dartmouth-Health-Connect-sees-changes-52345852
@hiramfromthechi that's any given smartphone
@amiloradovsky 1. Really not though, because all surveillance isn't created equal
2. Even if it were, doesn't make it right
2. Even if it were, doesn't make it right
@hiramfromthechi 1. OK, Google; 2. yes
Martin KosteraMy wife asked me why I was speaking so softly at home.
I told her I was afraid Mark Zuckerberg was listening!
She laughed. I laughed.
Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
I told her I was afraid Mark Zuckerberg was listening!
She laughed. I laughed.
Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
Mofli Tiene Sueño@hiramfromthechi then same applies to mobiles
@Moflitienesueno not all surveillance is created equal
@Hovedorganet has moved
hapax@hiramfromthechi Truly this is a golden age 🤦
CGLambdinThat would include smart TVs btw
@CGLambdin Agree, smart TVs are terrible privacy invaders
ArmageddJen@hiramfromthechi why does a place that deals with PHI need an echo in the first place??
fatboy 
@hiramfromthechi "muted"
trisweb@hiramfromthechi certainly shouldn’t exist anywhere near a healthcare setting. Yikes.