Latest cartoon: Doom Spiral
#politics #cartoon #war #israel #palestine #hamas #gaza
@jensorensen Yes! Of course! It is the Jew's fault!
@jensorensen What was putin supposed to do? Those Ukrainians just kept on insisting on living in Ukraine! It's a cycle!
@bp @jensorensen you're conflating Israelis with Jews.

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Did you go to school for that one? How much student debt do you still have?

@bp @jensorensen Criticizing Israel is not Antisemitism. There's a good reason many jews have spoken out against the decades old oppression of Palestinians by the Israeli state. This post is very clearly anti Hamas as well, they are not representative of the Palestinians and attack innocent civilians. This is not Palestine versus Israel but Hamas and Netanyahu versus the population.
@bp @jensorensen It is anti-semitic to connect innocent Jews with isn'treal.
@bp @jensorensen it's both from hamas and the Israeli government. It's not the Jews or the Palestinians. 90% of people on both side. Just want to live.
@denebeim @jensorensen don't give me your both sides "all lives matter" bullshit
@bp @denebeim @jensorensen Just so we’re clear, are you saying that you are down with the genocide of a human population trapped in a ghetto?
@bp @[email protected] @jensorensen Stating your life matters more than others and then trying to justify why is exactly what the Nazis did. Once you're that brainwashed there's almost no coming back.
@bp @jensorensen Hum. So dumb people thath don't know how to read and talk in their head alone are not a twitter only things, hun ?

How surprising (no)
@bp @jensorensen Hum. So dumb people that don't know how to read and talk in their head alone are not a twitter only things, hun ?

How surprising (no)
@jensorensen I feel like the only solution to the Doom Spiral, given human nature, is that rocks and sticks be the only available weapons.

@jab01701mid @jensorensen my kids were ruining a camping vacation fighting over the sticks and rocks, so I yelled, "that's it! All you're getting for Christmas is sticks and rocks!" Problem solved.

Maybe it's time to take away some of the toys we give Israel...

@jab01701mid @jensorensen Rwanda would like to have a word with you.
@jab01701mid @jensorensen Decolonization is what you are looking for.
@jensorensen Perfectly true. But…"innocent people" vs. "civilians" is a significant framing choice.
@AlaskaWx I try not to use the same words twice in a row; IMO they are interchangeable
@jensorensen most of Hamas's attackers would have been children during Operation Cast Lead.
Death is commonplace for Gaza’s lost generation

Growing up in the Palestinian enclave leaves the young numbed to the violence of their daily lives

The Guardian
@jensorensen let the bias aside, that's what happening all around.
The words "innocent people" and "civilians" should have the same meaning in this frame of references, otherwise it's again a biased tool to ligitimise the response.
@yaqub I intended for them to have the same meaning here
@jensorensen no mention of settlers
@cykonot @jensorensen There are no Jewish settlers in Gaza, nor are there settlers on the other side of the border in the areas that were attacked by Hamas- that’s all within the 1948 borders of Israel.

@dschwarz @jensorensen Many people in gaza were displaced by settlers. Also, i doubt they'll give back the area they're bombing. But you knew all that, didnt you

"in the areas that were attacked by hamas" and "1948 borders" are very necessary qualifiers huh

@cykonot @jensorensen If you consider all of Israel to be settlements then we have nothing to discuss.

@[email protected] @jensorensen there were Jewish people all throughout the middle east before 1947, including in Palestine. But, you are dishonest and i have nothing to discuss with you. You know whats been going on, and you know what is happening now. You are effectively defending genocide. I am Jewish and you do not speak for all jews.

The expansion of settlements is ongoing. Which i alluded to, and you chose to obfuscate. You are dishonest.

@jensorensen That leaves out the fact that #netanyahu is currently on trial for funding #Hamas $16milUSD every year since 2019. https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082
Benjamin Netanyahu: Money to Hamas part of strategy to keep Palestinians divided | The Jerusalem Post

“Now that we are supervising, we know it’s going to humanitarian causes,” the source said, paraphrasing Netanyahu.

The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com
@schoolingdiana @jensorensen
🤔 Um...uh...I'm just a dumb Canadian, and excuse my ignorance...but isn't this, like, a HUUUUGE deal?
@clintruin @jensorensen You’re smart enough to say Canadian instead of Canuck (which is North Coast Salish dialect of Lushootseed for gringo) . . . but, yes; it’s a very huge deal. He’s tried to restructure their Supreme Court so that sitting elected officials can’t be charged for crimes, and failed, so now he’s done this bombing fiasco.

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Pre-script here has a number of parallels in the Dresden raids, insofar as the moral imperatives of the two sides. Post-script will probably also be similar...

But let's talk after Hamas has been eliminated as a force. Civilians between two warring parties have always been at risk. Civilians independently massacred or killed in gas chambers are something else entirely.

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It's easier to blame your neighbor for all your problems then your relatives.

@jensorensen this ain’t it.

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I despise the implication that a fascistic government is some kind of force of nature in response to Palestinians acting a certain way.

No. It’s an ongoing conscious, cruel choice. It doesn’t matter how armed Hamas is or isn’t. It doesn’t matter what they are doing. The system would oppress them for another 100 years if left unchallenged. It simply must be dismantled.

@chairgirlhands The cartoon certainly isn't saying that. It's a critique of the ongoing oppression of Palestinians.

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what's going on in this part then

@chairgirlhands The cartoon is intentionally symbolic and non-specific so people can see the underlying cycle of apartheid that leads to violence. The first panel is not *literally* endorsing putting people in an open air prison for security reasons -- it's describing the big picture and the justification that is given by the state.

@jensorensen

I'm not a flowchart connoisseur but usually these things are interpreted as literal cause and effect, not the *alleged* cause and effect cited by a bad actor.

The justification given by the state is not the real reason. They would build their open air prison regardless of what their opposition was doing. You could have zero extremists and it would still happen.

And such extremists are cited not just to justify, but because the state *knows* that those extremists are the greatest threat to their existence. Accepting their alleged cause and effect is dangerous and serves their agenda.

@jensorensen There is no point of return or reform, after what thdey did to Khan Younis, it is only Palestine or Israel.

Pick your side.

@jensorensen growing up in Northern Ireland in the 80s I can very much recognize this.
@jensorensen I feel like this cartoon has been made by one artist or another or another, mutatis mutandis, for most of my adult life.
@jensorensen I´m glad that the spiral is now broken... oh wait... ?