VacuumfountainOct 6, 2023
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

i do not understand why a news site would not have an #RSS feed of their latest headlines.

you don't have to give your content away if you don't want to. but you cannot bitch & moan about #facebook or #twitter cannibalizing your readership in their fascist gated communities when you've turned your back on web standards and the open web.

Oct 5, 2023 at 10:58pmWeb
Show threadPrinceoflonelymtOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva the correct answer to them is for everyone to join "their" gated community. Classic capitalist self-own
Show threadMistherFrenchFriesOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva There weren’t THAT many truly ‘independent’ publications between WW one and two, but there were enough to convince me that the pocket WWW would have given most 1923 Americans a genuinely Lovecraftian experience.
Show threadPDOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva 99% of people have no idea what you’re talking about.
Show threadskribe 🇺🇦 Oct 6, 2023
@blogdiva In 2010/11 ABC News (Australia) had a bunch of RSS Feeds (for all their different regions and fields) and a page dedicated to them. Now they have one for sport, and another for headlines (possibly another for Sydney), but you have to comb through the code to find them. Shameful.
Show threadSusanna the Artist 🌻Oct 6, 2023
@blogdiva I wish I could boost this 100x. Every morning, I read the news with my news reader app (Feedly). The papers that have crappy, unreliable RSS feeds don’t get read. I subscribe to the ones that I know will show up. #rss
Show threadAnsgar FrejOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva Yeah, befuddles me as well. Ran across a couple sites over the last week that I wanted to follow, without a feed. I'll probably never see anything else from them again 🤷🏻‍♂️
Show threadseismo!allegra!utzooOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva lol. Last week I just went back to my.yahoo.com after ten years and started playing with it again.
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 6, 2023
@SeismoAllegra am using the reader that comes with Nextcloud but i think am going to move it to it's own platform. it's just too huge at this point, LOL
Show threadJoOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva I think it’s because they couldn’t figure out how to monetise it initially and then found they could build a worse user interface and get people to pay to use it.
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 6, 2023

@jomangee they didn't want to pay for syndication editors. i know. i used to consult on this.

RSS is a different medium for delivering content but they just wanted little robots so they could just break the unions they didn't want to pay.

so they let themselves get wined & dined by the stalkerware techbros that said, yeah! you got it. we'll give you bots.

and they got hoodwinked doubly so cuz they anyway ended hiring social media editors to continue losing money anyway.

Show threadJoOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva If they understood web standards they could have written once and have it read by many. Ah well. It’s been a few years since FriendFeed, the aggregator of everything was shuttered and has been little in the syndication of content since in my world. :/
Show threadWesMasonOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva
Now I miss google reader again. 😣
Show threadTHOMnottomOct 6, 2023

@blogdiva reminds me of the blog years. When people started debating whether they should put all of their content, partial, ads, etc. in feeds.

Give me the headlines at least. I can choose to follow the content. Losing that ability "killed" blogs and now it's killing news media.

Show thread[HANDMAIDEN] xanOct 6, 2023
@blogdiva I understand it perfectly. The world is modelled on cruelty and without the forethought of publications becoming truly public goods. The world of business will continue to disappoint until we threaten their existence in a way that matters to them.
Show threadEmil Jacobs - CollectifissionOct 6, 2023

@blogdiva agreed! I see two reasons for this:
1. RSS feeds don't do ads. They divert traffic from the site, so these news outlets have been disincentivized to use them.
2. The public at large has no idea what RSS is and doesn't use it. When I say to someone I use an RSS reader for my daily news consumption, I often just get a blank stare.

And yes, I patiently explain when asked 😉

Show threadlupus_blackfurOct 6, 2023

@blogdiva
@campuscodi

"Pfft... RSS ...

You can't force ads on consumers with RSS. Won't gain forced revenue generation. That'll never fit our business model. Of course we'll get rid of that."

- Media outlets

Show threadLed By Gilded FoolsOct 6, 2023

@lupus_blackfur @blogdiva @campuscodi OTOH, all those deep-pocket media outlets have to do is wait until we're gone because we're not so good at marketing freely available content, or #RSS readers

Prove me wrong, please

Show threadJL Johnson Oct 6, 2023
@blogdiva @lisamelton Hello. I never really got into RSS but love the open standard idea. I wonder if it’s possible to publish the “before read more” section of a post to RSS with a link to the full post? I think a lot of folks don’t want to lose that ad revenue for native visits.
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 6, 2023
@User47 @lisamelton yes. you can do whatever TF you want with feeds, which is why they're awesome. your question is great and am now not only adding it to my to-blog list but moving to the front of the pile a tutorial on RSS, syndication and feed readers. thanks!
Show threadJL Johnson Oct 6, 2023
@blogdiva @lisamelton hot damn. If you let me know when this happens I’ll do my best to get @AirlineReporter setup. We’re doing a sort of post-Covid reboot and trying to meet folks where they are. RSS can be part of that, me thinks
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 7, 2023

@User47 @lisamelton @AirlineReporter the reason why RSS sucks is that the majority of MSM embraced Wordpress instead of Drupal because it was "too hard". but that was BS: what they wanted with the new CMS was to kill the writers & editors unions; so they went with what they thought would make them laugh all the way to the bank with skeleton staffs.

and here we are.

Drupal's "building block forms" makes it so you can also build RSS however you want, ie: you can have free RSS and paid RSS

Show threadJL Johnson Oct 7, 2023
@blogdiva ah ha. We’re Wordpress. There’s no way I could talk them into a full migration
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 7, 2023

@User47 i don't use WP anymore, so i wouldn't even know if there's some rogue dev who figured it out for them, LOL.

the "fork" between most CMSs and Drupal is that Drupal is probably the only one that allows you to atomize content. it has default "page" and "article" forms but those are so 2005.

you can create any content-entry forms you want, then pull, render & format that data however you want and then thru APIs, deliver it a myriad ways: html, xhtml, xml, json, yml, cvs, pdf, epub, etc.

Show threadElizabeth GuiltOct 7, 2023
@blogdiva Although I'm sure the ad-revenue view is correct, a huge sticking point is that a vanishingly tiny number of end-users know what RSS is. Quite a few people have recently asked me how they can keep up with a regular series on my blog, and have looked completely blank when I said "there's an RSS feed". People have literally never heard of it, let alone knowing how to use it (or why they'd want to). Trying to explain it just gets me "urg, sounds complicated".
Show threadyour auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Oct 7, 2023

@elizabethguilt that was by design because only blogs had RSS feeds and not MSM news sites back in the aughts when they started to pick up traction.

the CEO of Reuters went on record at the time that they had to make sure it would ever become mainstream & successful because it would mean the death of their proprietary business.

Show threadElizabeth GuiltOct 7, 2023
@blogdiva I didn't know that about Reuters' CEO. I guess knowing about RSS depends a lot on when you first found your way around the internet: was it still blogheavy, or dominated by a few corporate players.
Show threadDan WJan 8, 2025

@blogdiva @nlowell
I concur.

If a Headline and a Blurb, published via RSS exposes all the content of your article, maybe you need more content in your article.