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EatonIn a lot of ways, Facebook has a classic IBM problem
1. Won big early, and accumulated a war chest that let them absorb hits instead of adapting
2. Facilitated genocide
Francis 🏴☠️ Gulotta@eaton oh god didn't see you going this direction
@reconbot i feel conflicted about having written it like a punchline, but I think it holds up
@eaton it holds up
Raglan Niall 
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Steve Leach@eaton @reconbot For better or worse, the micro-blog format encourages that -- I used to think of Twitter as "Quipper" because there was only room to exchange bumper-stickers and short (often snarky) stuff - not full and complete thoughts. The 500 character default for #mastodon is better but I'd prefer 2 - 4k (one to two pages text) as a default limit - we'd get more deeply engaged that way I think.
CautionWIP (he/him) 🏳️🌈🇨🇦🕎
British Tech Guru@eaton FB is an experiment in social engineering.
David P@eaton that escalated quickly
Condalmo.@eaton classic IBM L
Craig3010 🧀 🌽 🇺🇦 🌊@eaton You kind of skipped a step or twenty there.
This is Hell
JP@eaton they're trying to adapt now and it's going Great
Grimblob@eaton For those who aren't aware
Beeks
gavinisdie 
@eaton oh yeah, didn't IBM do business with Germany during WW2?
Sören@gavinisdie @eaton yup. they sold tabulation machines to nazis (even circumventing export restrictions, I believe), who used them to better keep track of residents — by race, religion, whathaveyou
An early form of a database, if you will.
The Turtle@eaton ever worked in IT?
sora 🦋@eaton my dad has worked there for 15+ years and yeah... it sure is one of the companies out there 
kb@eaton wait when did IBM do the latter? I'm not very familiar
ocdtrekkie@donkeyblam @eaton IBM sold computers to the Nazis to literally keep track of the folks they were killing. There's a book linked elsewhere in the thread about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
Clover@eaton number 2 is a common pitfall but if you buy my course you’ll be able to learn how you can recover the reputation of your company after any heinous action you conduct in the name of profit
C64tone@eaton 'classic' 😳
Josh Grant@eaton so this went hard
Burstaholic
Aaron@eaton Well that escalated quickly
thetacola@eaton i dont think facebook has poured billions of gallons of VOCs into a town’s water supply and dipped yet though, so at least they go that going for them
Alon@eaton When I go to Holocaust museums, they talk about the Jews, about dehumanizing rhetoric in and around Germany, about the extermination, about the indifference of the world afterward. They don't talk about IBM and barely about IG Farben, because they don't really matter.
Center the victims, not your grudge against American corporations.
@Alon generally speaking, i agree that holocaust museums would be bad places to make jokes about facebook
Dr. Seltsam@eaton I get 1) but, sorry, not 2). Could you briefly explain, please? I’m being honestly lost here.
Thanks heaps in advance!
Thanks heaps in advance!
@eaton Facebook feels a lot like late #Myspace whenever I check back in on it. The algorithmic feed doesn't drive engagement for me, it just makes it useless - I have no idea what is going on with any of the old friends who are my #Facebook friends - including those who post stuff regularly because I can't see a simple reverse chronological ordered feed by default and people don't engage with it that way, so it's just broken now (for me at least).
Glenn@eaton Very good point. I think that it could be made of most companies created in the Internet boom years.
John Lusk
Sriram "sri" Ramkrishna - 😼
Trash Panda@eaton Not to side with FB, I hate the thing, but how did it facilitate genocide?
Sam Leibowitz@eaton just wrapped up giving a presentation at work and all my colleagues are now wondering why I'm now belly laughing.
@eaton That escalated fast. 👍
IceNineSuccint and spot on.
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