Eryk SalvaggioWhen people tell me generative AI will solve real-world problems
(If you like this kind of thing I think I might be worth a follow, this is basically my entire vibe in a single post)
eestileib (she/hers)
Bat Master Fresh@CyberneticForests they should have hidden those layers better
Tim Lavoie@lilbatscholar @CyberneticForests The weights are hidden though.
don Elías (como los buses) 🥨@CyberneticForests that's genius, I love it
LR@CyberneticForests funny, but technically more accurate would be the people laying on the tracks as input (utilitarian problem) and the levers as output (utilitarian solution), the moving tram is an external constant, so could be put above the whole thing ;)
@CyberneticForests ... then again, with an inference model, the levers would be input and people on the tracks output (i.e. these are the levers people have pulled in examples, and these people have survived as a result); the machine is then run inverted and suggests, for a desired outcome, one possible configuration in which levers could be pulled.
@CyberneticForests and yet a third interpretation, completely in tune with the version here, is that the input resembles instances of unavoidable doom that awaits their victims, and all hidden layer nodes are levers (which is quite correct). this machine would likely be trained to find a configuration of levers that optimizes for the maximum of survivors, given a particular configuration of trams on rails. the network would then begin to map the train tracks themselves.
Claude@lritter You're describing the IA in self-driving cars, aren't you? @CyberneticForests
Spoontaneous Consumption@lritter @CyberneticForests
@stablehorde_generator
draw for me a representation of a deep neural network but all the input resembles instances of unavoidable doom caused by unstoppable trolleys that awaits their victims, and all hidden layer nodes are levers. the output is optimized numbers of survivors.
@stablehorde_generator
draw for me a representation of a deep neural network but all the input resembles instances of unavoidable doom caused by unstoppable trolleys that awaits their victims, and all hidden layer nodes are levers. the output is optimized numbers of survivors.
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Prompt: a representation of a deep neural network but all the input resembles instances of unavoidable doom caused by unstoppable trolleys that awaits their victims, and all hidden layer nodes are levers. the output is optimized numbers of survivors.
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@manu @CyberneticForests @stablehorde_generator i'm sorry but as a large language model i am unable to draw neural networks of unstoppable trolleys as that would be unethical
betalars 
@home@lritter but that would make the joke not any more fun
@betalars it would keep energy vampires like me away though
FeralRobots@lritter @CyberneticForests
My old AI prof (circa 1988) would've loved your extrapolations here & used them to frame a class discussion.
My old AI prof (circa 1988) would've loved your extrapolations here & used them to frame a class discussion.
Oggie@CyberneticForests I'm more reminded of the good place, Michael's solution to the trolley problem.
Torge Rosendahl@CyberneticForests mom: we have #TrolleyProblem at home. The trolley problem at home:
Tony Fisk@CyberneticForests the answer is clearly more trolley cars.
Nicolás Quesada
ccount@CyberneticForests
If I were in charge, I'd just hire an outside consultant and blame/credit them for the decision.
If I were in charge, I'd just hire an outside consultant and blame/credit them for the decision.
mirth@CyberneticForests Maybe it's just a training data issue, we need more people and more trolleys.
Noah Cook@CyberneticForests This is the first time I have actually seen the Trolley Problem represent a real-world policy decision. Usually it's just pointless pseudo-intellectual mental masturbation.
SSFC KDT (MOVED)@CyberneticForests The outcome of the algorithm, incidentally, will only be based on the average of the choices that human beings would make
Not exactly comforting
Dofain@CyberneticForests 5 trolleys hitting 11 guys 11 times.
Conclusions: trolleys are made of photons
Conclusions: trolleys are made of photons
Tucker Teague@CyberneticForests probably needs a few more hidden layers
Mark Gardner@CyberneticForests @randomgeek When people tell me #trolley thought experiments in #philosophy provide guidance for real-world problems: https://newideal.aynrand.org/why-todays-ethics-offers-no-real-guidance/
(I don't think generative #AI will solve #ethics problems either, just whitewash where the solutions come from)
askiiart@CyberneticForests Feed various trolley problems into a small language model to encode(?) so that other ML models can understand it (like CLIP I think), then train a model to solve trolley problems. Its training data will come from stuff like Absurd Trolley Problems. [1]
Sorry if this is nonsense, I don't know that much about the specifics of ML. But I think I've got very roughly the right idea.
withoutclass
M Schommer@withoutclass @CyberneticForests Also: This is how conspiracy theories (theorists?) work.
Alexander Boden
ItsHoward 
@CyberneticForests
The Trolley Problems for AI
😂
Ming Chan
SamuelJohnson@CyberneticForests So.... Nobody shared this one?
jenny (phire) (@[email protected])
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NagaramActual conversation I've had with my old AI developer roommate circa 2018
RM: "AI is super cool right now. I'm currently working with a research firm and we've sort of simulated PAIN for our model and we're seeing how it reacts when it receives only a pain stimulus and no reward."
Me: Hey man What the Fuck.
Jef Poskanzer
David Mankins@Nagaram @CyberneticForests @Binder
Ted Chiang (*The story of your life and others*), interviewed by Ezra Klein, said he hoped we never developed artificial consciousness, because of all the suffering it would mean for the prototype consciousness along the way.
liroso
varx/social@Nagaram @CyberneticForests I've often wondered what the smallest possible digital circuit is that experiences pain.
Fucked up that someone is trying for it.