David HoAnything that makes a city a worse place to drive makes it a better place to live… 👀
FR4NÇ01S 🖍️🇫🇷🍉@davidho
I’m giggling from the thought
I’m giggling from the thought
Madame Ximon@davidho As a resident of Seattle, a.k.a. Shadowrun without the magic, I beg to differ. The contempt for gig workers and other people who drive for a living correlates pretty strongly with the contempt for labor in general. The people who pat themselves on the back for jacking up parking prices and making undrivable traffic patterns are the same people who tell the poor "wow, that sounds like a difficult situation, you're going to have to deal with it!" (Direct quote from a judge)
🍵 holly@davidho tag yourself I’m 🇳🇱 NETHERLANDS NETHERLANDS NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
Paul Cantrell@davidho
And then the panel that follows…!
And then the panel that follows…!
Reid 
@davidho that’s a very xkcd thing to say
lick here for more info@davidho i dunno about spikes but I honestly wonder if there's a way to make having car go sideways less enjoyable.
We live next to a roundabout and I can hear some clowns burning rubber as I'm writing this at 1 am.
Maybe spikes, but horizontal? 🤔
Cassandrich@davidho s/,.*//
beforewisdom 
Christopher Schmidt@beforewisdom @davidho yes, and yes, and i thoroughly agree with this comic
Clinton Anderson SwordForHire@davidho I'm ok with random tire spikes
Andres@davidho The thing that made me get rid of my car (in 2008 or so) and switch to transit/biking was the sheer difficulty around parking in Cambridge/Somerville. Had my car towed once, got lots of tickets, parking was constantly a pain, and then finally decided to just get rid of it.
Been car-free ever since, across multiple states.
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘@davidho Hmm. So nobody remembers traffic jams?
@anne_twain @davidho "remember" them? I experience them regularly. They are a simple fact of geometry in most cities. Cars just take up too much space per person to avoid. (Any city that doesn't have traffic jams... probably isn't a city.)
The thing that makes dealing with traffic jams work best is "not needing to drive". After all, you are the traffic.
Claude@anne_twain most traffic jams are created by people not respecting security distances between vehicles and being selfish instead of demonstrating a basic sense of courtesy on the road. And bad public transport. @davidho
@switch No they're not.
@anne_twain that's what my driving teacher told me years ago so I believed them. Maybe she was wrong. I live in France though. Cities are notably smaller than what counts as even a middlesized one in the USA. And apart from Paris, Marseille, Bordeaux and a few other big towns, we don't have many huge multiple lanes roads.
@switch I guess English is not your first language, then? I'm wondering if your driving teacher said that lack of driver courtesy and driving too close is the cause of traffic *accidents*? A "traffic jam" happens when there's too much traffic on the roads and traffic slows and even stops. What's that called in French?
In America they call it "gridlock", but in Australian English it's a traffic jam.
@anne_twain she was talking about traffic jams in cities. Of course accidents cause traffic jams too.
Cyber Yuki@anne_twain @davidho Plot twist: Traffic jams are caused by traffic. Every time you increase the number of lanes, the number of cars increases because the places you used to walk to now require you to drive to them. This means more parking spots are needed, gas stations have longer lines, and places are more and more difficult to get to. Which means people will have to buy more cars. It's a vicious cycle.
The only way to break this cycle is to make pedestrian friendly cities where everything is 5 to 10 minutes away, either by walking or on bike.
@anne_twain @davidho Sorry, I didn't mean to contradict you. I was just adding to the thread. My apologies for my poor wording.
Stephen Gentle@davidho Almost, but not quite. Places that reach even a fair amount of population density, that are designed to be good to drive in get clogged up with huge amounts of traffic (from induced demand) and end up being the worst places to drive anyway. Improving public transport, walkability, bikeability etc. can actually make it better to drive, since good transit options takes people off the road relieving congestion - it’s just you might have to take a longer way around (can’t go through pedestrianised areas, filters etc.) and drive slower. But driving slower feels fine if the road is designed for it, as opposed to those designed like a 70 km/h road with a 40 or 50 km/h limit!
Chu 朱Long have I imagined the utopia of random tire spikes on every major transit corridor.
I don't see what could go wrong.
Moose Jolly Holcomb@davidho strategic tire spike placement is a different story though.
Edit: Maybe should have looked at the comic's punchline.
Talan@davidho I think the full comic has played out entirely in a NotJustBikes video I watched at some point
mike805@davidho Don't give them any ideas.
allgonnadie@davidho doesn’t work for my hometown btw, it’s horrible for both pedestrians and cars lol
Quincy ⁂just one exception: digital or otherwise animated (mega) #billboards AKA "city blights".
make a city hell to drive in, AND hell to live in.
SoilnRock
Eric the half-a-bee@davidho
Depends on the city; its infrastructure and availability of clean reliable public transport.
Too bad if you’re a trades person.
Depends on the city; its infrastructure and availability of clean reliable public transport.
Too bad if you’re a trades person.