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Tony, Pretty Much Sep 13, 2023

Biden is old, but capable, honest, ethical, and hard working.

Trump is old, but dangerous, lying, treasonous, and a fascist.

One thing is not like the other.

Please do go away, Mitt Romney. He never could bring himself to admit his party is the worst thing about this country.

Romney: Biden, Trump should both ‘stand aside’ in 2024 |
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4203104-romney-biden-trump-should-both-stand-aside-in-2024/

Romney: Biden, Trump should both ‘stand aside’ in 2024

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) said on Wednesday that he wishes President Biden and former President Trump would stand aside and allow both political parties to choose new leadership for the 2024 presidential contest. Romney, 76, made the comment while talking to reporters in his office following his retirement announcement earlier in the day. “I think…

The Hill

Kevin Leecaster Sep 13, 2023

@TonyStark
It's so frustrating that so many non-Democrats get attention for saying what Democrats "should" do.

Second guessing Biden is a mistake a lot of people are making.

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 13, 2023

@GreenFire Bit of a disease this week.

All the flouncy complaining in the midst of a crisis often discourages voter turnout and participation (and often culminates in someone stating they're not going to vote because they're not delighted by the options).

Elections have consequences and it’s only been a couple of years since we’ve gotten Trump away from the controls.

It’s going to be a choice of Biden or Trump. Undermining the Democratic candidate is no laughing matter.

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 14, 2023

@TonyStark @GreenFire I’ve run into at least three “there’s no point in voting” idiots in the last week and a half here on Mastodon. We have got to keep shutting that bullshit down, but man it’s depressing sometimes. How can anybody be that cavalier about other peoples lives that would be destroyed.

Kevin Leecaster Sep 14, 2023

@Pineywoozle @TonyStark
Somehow we've got to make it clear that the people that don't vote because #BothSidesAreBad are no better than are MAGAts.

They're essentially saying that they're privileged enough to not have to worry about what the damage GOP policies cause to people's lives or our planet.

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 14, 2023

@GreenFire @TonyStark We need to tell them in the hopes that someone who follows them will hear it. I’ve been dealing with this garbage since 2016. Most of the small % that push this aren’t going to change, but the people listening to them might. The trick is to inform them & leave that information in their timeline where they can’t hide it from followers, then block the motherfuckers & move the fuck on. Part of their game is to suck up time and energy. #farL

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 14, 2023

@Pineywoozle @GreenFire GreenFire and I have both been here for awhile and it’s a real battle. I’m glad there are more of us now ally up.

@TonyStark @Pineywoozle @GreenFire

It's great to hear there are people who are likewise annoyed by the self-defeating nonsense that is "there's no point in voting"

Even if you think they have given us a twig for a sword of democracy the answer is to use it to poke them in the eye, not disarm yourself and lie down and take whatever comes to yourself and your community.

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 14, 2023

@doctormo @Pineywoozle @GreenFire Well said.

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 15, 2023

@doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire They actually believe what Sarandon said, that electing a Rethug will make it so bad it will speed the revolution and they will get their unicorn fart version of socialism. And…they think we will join them in their glorious revolution when the reality is brutal fascism will overwhelm us all. We will eventually overthrow it but not for their BS and not without massive suffering and sacrifice.

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 15, 2023

@GreenFire @Pineywoozle @doctormo Pineywoozle- everyone should read this post.

Letting Trump get elected pushed the country further to the right. They were wrong and we’ve all suffered and not that many will admit they were wrong. A lot of the criticism of Democrats still comes that group- the stuff that’s undermining us all right now.

cnkraeh Sep 15, 2023

@Pineywoozle @doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire

in some states including my own... Biden is sure not to win.. so I feel free to elevate a third party..

its too bad the democrat leaders put us in this position by keeping Biden on... I think he is a sure loser .. we will not have pandemic levels of turn out #politics #uspol

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 15, 2023

@GreenFire @Pineywoozle @doctormo @cnkraeh Nobody falls for bullshit like this here.

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 15, 2023

@cnkraeh @doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire You don’t know that. You don’t know that your vote won’t have an effect. Even just in the primary. When the votes of all the states are counted there might be a voter in a purple state who sees your added support & that’s the tipping point for them. Maybe your vote is the one that puts it over the edge mathematically & changes how the media reports it. We need EVERY voice raised. #farL #USPol

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 15, 2023

@cnkraeh @doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire Biden actually isn’t a sure loser. tRump is less popular than he was in 2020 when we beat the socks off him. You’re repeating GOP & Ru talking points and if it’s deliberate shame on you and if it’s because you just don’t realize it then please do more homework. Either way I’m gonna block because I won’t help spread those lies.

Mark Wyner Won’t Comply

@Pineywoozle @doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire that thinking is SO dangerous. And it’s unreal just how privileged folks are to suggest this. The consequences are real, as you’ve noted.

Art - US Expat in Spain Sep 15, 2023

@Pineywoozle @doctormo @TonyStark @GreenFire Never trust puritanical anarchists. History shows how ineffective they end up being.

Jack the Waterlogged Count Sep 15, 2023

@doctormo @TonyStark @Pineywoozle @GreenFire The symbol of the Haudenosaunee was five twigs, reproduced by the five arrows in the eagle's claw on the great seal of the United States.

Put enough twigs together, nothing can break them.

Sane Thinker Sep 15, 2023

@doctormo @TonyStark @Pineywoozle @GreenFire People should vote, but it is near useless. Getting to the polls it's going to be difficult when they are on fire, or you have to swim to them. If you think voting is enough, you are absolutely wrong. The system has led us to oblivion.

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 15, 2023

@gdeihl @Pineywoozle @GreenFire @doctormo No one is saying voting is all we need to do and it’s super annoying when people roll up and claim anyone said it. It’s ridiculous. And old and tired.

Sane Thinker Sep 15, 2023

@TonyStark @Pineywoozle @GreenFire @doctormo What's getting old and tired is the climate crisis that is going to cause our extinction. Our passivity makes us complicit. One party is fascist, and the other one is inept, not calling for or envisioning the profound changes we need if we are to have a future on this planet.

Tony, Pretty Much Sep 15, 2023

@doctormo @gdeihl @GreenFire @Pineywoozle I’m not complicit and see you’re fairly misinformed, possibly intentionally, looking at your other posts.

I’d say the fascist one is a little more important at the moment. Enjoy your evening.

@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote Sep 15, 2023

@TonyStark @doctormo @gdeihl @GreenFire I read his TL & I’m just gonna block.

jz.tusk Sep 15, 2023

@Pineywoozle @TonyStark @doctormo @gdeihl @GreenFire

I'm just going to trust your eval, and mute.

Sane Thinker Sep 15, 2023

@jztusk @Pineywoozle @TonyStark @doctormo @GreenFire Way to think for yourself.

Sane Thinker Sep 15, 2023

@TonyStark @Pineywoozle @GreenFire @doctormo Sure, we all participated, but those in power made the lies and Kool-Aid. It's coming to death one way or another, either passively or fighting. The planet has decided.