Don't miss this one ⤵️​. A wide-ranging and provocative conversation covering disparate issues like: How do we balance accuracy versus breadth as scientists? Why should we read a book written in 1897? When is a paw a hand? And should scientists cede the term "dopamine" to the pop-psychologists?

Exactly the type of thing I love about the furry elephant.

https://neuromatch.social/@NicoleCRust/111012453557938392

Nicole Rust (@[email protected])

On jargon - is it useful? Is it necessary and useful for scientists to say "mnemonic" to refer to "memory" and "affect" to talk about "emotion"? In other words, given that everyone understand emotion and mood and no one really understands what "affect" is until you are really deep into things, why is the term affect useful and important at all? And should we reserve it for deep dives (as opposed to public facing websites and such)? And does anyone call themselves an "emotion researcher?" or a "mood researcher?" @PessoaBrain @[email protected]

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@NicoleCRust @brembs @DrYohanJohn @WorldImagining

Sorry if I'm not including everyone here.

I think we need more jargon in neuroscience (mind/brain).

Couple of examples. Examine the mess that is the debate about "consciousness" because (in part) so many senses are mixed, including "sentience", "awareness", etc.

Or the fact that we use basically folk psychological terms all the time. So even if qualify what I mean by attention* in one of my papers, using a term that is used in a dozen ways will surely lead to confusion.

Our mind/brain field is highly technical, but the language surprisingly accessible to most people. That's a problem not because we want to be "distinguished professors" but because of the complete terminological confusion we inhabit!

I couldn't read all the discussion, so apologies if this was already discussed and debunked... 🙂

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@PessoaBrain @NicoleCRust @brembs @DrYohanJohn
Some counter-examples from fields where terms do have strict definitions yet use words which also have a wide range of everyday meanings (i.e. are not "jargon" per se): mass, power, gravity, element, compound, volume...

I think it's useful to reflect on how *unproblematic* the technical use of these terms is as opposed to, say, "consciousness" or "attention." The problem then reduces to an absence of strict definitions more than to polysemy.

@PessoaBrain @NicoleCRust @brembs @DrYohanJohn In other words, we shouldn't avoid using certain terms in science on the basis that they already have common everyday meanings. We should consider avoiding certain terms in science on the basis that they don't yet have a strict scientific definition conducive to rigorous delimitation of inquiry/investigation. I believe the nuance between these two reasons is worth bearing in mind.

@WorldImagining @PessoaBrain @NicoleCRust @brembs

I think physical concepts like mass etc aren't fraught with all the cultural baggage of psychological terms. Few people have strong opinions on what "volume" means, but many have some notion of what "emotion", "thinking", or "attention" mean.

The case of "representation" is exemplary and doesn't bode well: people who explicitly disavow a symbolic Fodorian notion of representation have to endlessly reassert this when Gibsonians are around. 😅

@DrYohanJohn @WorldImagining @PessoaBrain @NicoleCRust @brembs

related diffs btwn fields I learned:

» I have a chemistry brain and a physics brain, and they will never meet each other, they will never happen at the same time...
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and what I'm thinking of pH with my chemistry brain I think about H plus as a hydrogen ion...

if if I'm thinking about it with my physics brain I'm like that's a proton «

by watching a cool #scicomm debunking video by @acollierastro

~1:36
https://youtu.be/rBQhdO2UxaQ?t=96

alkaline water ...with lemon

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