Joanne FisherSep 5, 2023
Show thread🎓 Doc Freemo  🇳🇱

@Jedigirl

The thing this is missing is that most people want others to suffer not simply because they happened to turn out fine, but because they believe that suffering **is the reason** they turned out fine. They see it as something that builds character.

Not saying their right, just saying you cant fix a problem by misunderstanding it.

Sep 5, 2023 at 2:02pmWeb
Show threadwoffsSep 5, 2023
@freemo @Jedigirl maybe a kind of Stockholm Syndrome
Show thread🎓 Doc Freemo  🇳🇱Sep 5, 2023

@woffs

Perhaps something similar yea... "I dealt with this horribile and significant thing.. I am a good and better person than I was, this horrible and significant thing must make people better people! It is the only thing that gives what was done to me meaning!"

@Jedigirl

Show thread🇺🇦 Ehren Werner 🏴‍☠️Sep 5, 2023
@woffs @Jedigirl @freemo It’s a coping mechanism for rationalizing why they have suffered.
Show threadobscurestarSep 5, 2023
@ehren @woffs @Jedigirl @freemo
Of all the rough stuff in Bojack Horseman, I think Diane's revelation about trauma cut deepest for me.
Show threadThe Real FalsehooderSep 5, 2023

@woffs @Jedigirl @freemo Being awesome?

(Greetings from Stockholm!)

Show threadKL ForslundSep 5, 2023

@freemo @Jedigirl along that line, at the extreme end of things, there’s the utopia rat experiment where rats had everything handed to them and in fact dis not turn out fine.

As a society, we do need to aim toward fairness and better treatment of each other

But a bit of natural difficulty is also important.

A pro-suffering guy might be thinking he turned out fine and that rat study proves it. But i think there’s much more to it.

Show threadjoemcintyreSep 5, 2023
@klforslund @freemo @Jedigirl err the way I remember it the rats didn't have population control. So they suffered because they couldn't plan ahead or couldn't see the cage through the facade? Wait it could be about humans and climate change.
Show thread🎓 Doc Freemo  🇳🇱Sep 6, 2023

@joemcintyre

There is more than one rat experiment.. I had assumed he meant a different one than this. ::shrug::

@klforslund @Jedigirl