The thing this is missing is that most people want others to suffer not simply because they happened to turn out fine, but because they believe that suffering **is the reason** they turned out fine. They see it as something that builds character.
Not saying their right, just saying you cant fix a problem by misunderstanding it.
@freemo @Jedigirl along that line, at the extreme end of things, there’s the utopia rat experiment where rats had everything handed to them and in fact dis not turn out fine.
As a society, we do need to aim toward fairness and better treatment of each other
But a bit of natural difficulty is also important.
A pro-suffering guy might be thinking he turned out fine and that rat study proves it. But i think there’s much more to it.
There is more than one rat experiment.. I had assumed he meant a different one than this. ::shrug::
The strap was still a thing in schools in the 1970s. I had it several times, once so bad my hands were bruised black. I could hardly hold a pencil. I wouldn't dare say anything at home about getting in trouble at school.
As an adult, I took counselling a few times to deal with anger issues, and learned how to discipline my kids without violence.
I'm not better for having gone through what I did.
I don't think those people want others to turn out to be like them. I think they resent that they had to do things in a very hard way and now others do not.
@Jedigirl I see this from people that immigrate to the US all the time. They had to spend a ton of time and money to get their US citizenship and get upset at the idea that someone wouldn't have to go through that somehow insulting to them. I moved from Canada and was, at first, expecting to go through the same hoops, but because my mom was from Ohio, I was able to prove and declare my US citizenship.
The fact is, no one should have had to go through it, and we need to fix the immigration system now.
Note: I'm not trying to single out the US, most countries have trash immigration systems.
@Jedigirl There's two kinds of people in this world:
"I had to go through this so others should as well."
and
"I had to go through this so I'll do what I can to avoid having others go through it as well."
A tweet by a user @daniel_swensen or Daniel Shipwreck:
If you suffered in life and want other people to suffer as you did because "you turned out fine," you did not in fact turn out fine.Source: farside.link/nitter/mxdshipwre…
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Daniel Shipwreck（@daniel_swensen）
2019-11-22 https://nitter.net/mxdshipwreck/status/1198633752164847617
If you suffered in life and want other people to suffer as you did because "you turned out fine," you did not in fact turn out fine.
I guess it’s customary to do a follow-up when a tweet gains some traction, so... do your best to be compassionate and kind. That’s all I’ve got.
Just one thing: a few of you seem to think when I said “suffering” I meant “everyday life challenges that build character” and, I don’t.
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