People, stop using #Meta, #Google, and other #BigTech Apps that make YOU the product!

There are already so many right-wing governments.

You compromise your current or at least future security (e.g. profiling using LLMs.)

Use #Threema or #Signal instead.

#DeleteWhatsApp
#DeleteThreads
#DeleteFacebook
#DeleteInstagram
#DeleteTwitter
#DeleteTikTok

Data collection comparison of messenger services (found on the web):

@HistoPol @thatmanmatt

I completely agree about avoiding Whatsapp

Unfortunately, Signal or Threema only work with a mobile phone to sign up (same for Telegram which Furries absolutely demand to exclusively use)

Depending on which state you live (germany for example) it might be impossible to get a anonymous SIM card and therefore just have no useable number

Its beyond my red line to be personally verified and legally attached to a phone that can track all my movement and interactions

@HistoPol @thatmanmatt

So i am all for XMPP/Jabber and Matrix

@Laberpferd

I have never seen any information on those.

But I like #TheMatrix trilogy. ;)

@thatmanmatt

@HistoPol
I strongly suggest you chck them out

XMPP is a classic since decades, but has somewhat falen out of fashion after it was abandoned by Bigtech

Matrix still has issues with key sharing across multiple devices, but is emerging pretty well in Mastodon and i also have heard that Thunderbird has an Matrix client function in paralell to E-Mail

@Laberpferd
100%

However, I have registered #Threema without having to provide my cell number, it is optional.

Of course, I have to use mobile internet, when I am on the move, but I can use a VPN.

So, where do you see the risk with #threema?

And, besides, mobile phone calls and SMS seem a lot lesse secure to me.

I once had a discussion with a cyber security pro what means of communication is really safe: meet at a remote location in person, that's about it.

Point being:

@HistoPol @thatmanmatt
The last time i looked at #Threema (a few years ago) it was mandatory to run it as app on a phone.

Did i miss a major change and it can now be used on a #Linux Laptop without a phone?

No sarcasm, im seriously interested.

Also which anonymous payment options do i have in germany, perhaps give someone cash?

@HistoPol @thatmanmatt
> So, where do you see the risk with #threema

No risk with Threema

Its over my personal red line where i have to legally verify name, address and face photo to get a SIM card in the first place

Then anything i do around the phone around is attached to my person and can be taken for legal or illegal use

This is espically worrying me with the rising fascism

@Laberpferd
100%.

So, what do you do if you need a phone for your life but live in a country where this is required.

Also, I have read a bit about #Threema. If you do not provide your cell phone number, there is no information whatsover on their servers about who ist doing what that can be linked back to your phone, at leas that is my understanding so far.

I have done quite some data integration from different sources. If there is no primary key that liks across sources (or...

@thatmanmatt

@HistoPol @thatmanmatt

So far i can still live without a phone

@Laberpferd

Good for you. I won't b/c I might always need it in case of accident (e.g. cycling through fields, forests, etc.).
But, of course I understand that there are many countries with regimes where these concerns might be minor in comparison.

@thatmanmatt

@Laberpferd @thatmanmatt

...and attribute field that can be linked with another source). So, as long as you do not provide a PII like a name, etc., in your posts, I think you are quite safe.

Of course, any other form of communication from your phone is not safe. But that is beside the point and why I would use #Threema whenever possible.

@Laberpferd

I feel your concern strongly and share it, no sarcasm (which I use, too, but mark s/: ...s/), was detected. )

Here it says that there is a Win desktop app and a web client, you might want to take a look:

https://threema.ch/de/download

Payment: I only know of one e-mail provider, where you can realy send in money by mail. A question of trust.

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