Kelly Guimont

Today in tilting at windmills:

There is no such thing as a "necessary" or "required" cookie. If I am logging in to a service that is not the same as loading a melonfarming page of your melonfarming site. Do not @ me I have been on the internet since before years started with a 2 and I am here to tell you we got along just fine before it was decided cookies were a necessity.

Aug 31, 2023 at 2:35pmIvory for iOS
Show threadChad GeidelAug 31, 2023
@Verso Do javascript next! :)
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@chadgeidel I have a lot of windmills already (:
Show threadLorq Von RayAug 31, 2023
@Verso Not wrong...
Show threadRose, Skaven Mars PriestessAug 31, 2023

@Verso

WOAH NOW.

Slow your roll.

Gooey chocolate chip oatmeal cookies and snickerdoodles are ABSOLUTELY required and necessary.

Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@RoseRaven oh real life cookies are necessary for sure!!
Show threadkatrinaAug 31, 2023
@Verso A shopping card ID is a necessary cookie if you are doing that. But if you are just reading a news article, then I agree, nothing is "necessary".
Show threadWorkshopshedAug 31, 2023
@katrinatransfem @Verso couldn't that be done using a query string?
Show threadDavid RolfeAug 31, 2023
@Workshopshed @katrinatransfem @Verso state between a user and a site could just as easily use url encoding or part of the DOM, but then how would they track you site to site forever?
Show threadWorkshopshedSep 1, 2023
@Dorolfe @katrinatransfem @Verso but is that "necessary" ?
Show threadDavid RolfeSep 1, 2023
@Workshopshed
Sorry I was being a bit facetious—of course it’s not necessary to track you from site to site forever. Cases where stateful interactions with a server are in fact necessary (like accessibility prefs, shopping carts) can be accomplished without enabling surveillance.
Show threadWorkshopshedSep 1, 2023
@Dorolfe
Show threadDavid RolfeSep 1, 2023
@Workshopshed lol 😂
Show threadDavid Brent 📚Aug 31, 2023
@Verso Can I get an "Amen!"
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@dbsalk can I have a hallelu!
Show threadMarc ScheffelAug 31, 2023
@Verso it is just evil or lazy cookies that are bad. Some of remember 300 character URLs used to retain variables.
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@mscheffel I am "us" in that sentence. Give me a URL where I can strip out all the extra tracking information every day and twice on Sunday instead of no way to reject your lazy web dev nonsense.
Show threadscreambiogenesisAug 31, 2023

@Verso @mscheffel In case you don't know: Add-ons like Cookie AutoDelete are pretty much must-haves at this point. Cookies placed by a website are nuked as soon as you leave the site, unless you choose to keep them.

https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete

GitHub - Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete: Firefox and Chrome WebExtension that deletes cookies and other browsing site data as soon as the tab closes, domain changes, browser restarts, or a combination of those events.

Firefox and Chrome WebExtension that deletes cookies and other browsing site data as soon as the tab closes, domain changes, browser restarts, or a combination of those events. - Cookie-AutoDelete/...

GitHub
Show threadAnkit PatiAug 31, 2023

@Verso “I have been on the Internet since before years started with a 2” is my new anthem.

Even though I have decidedly not been that long on the Internet.

Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@ankitpati it's a solid line to draw in many contexts. (:
Show threadAnneAug 31, 2023
@Verso “Since before years started with a 2” is splendid and I must use it as soon as possible.
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@AnneMacro it works in many many formats. Enjoy!
Show threadjtbAug 31, 2023
@Verso How would a website know that you are logged in without a cookie?
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@jtb thanks for playing.
Show threadjtbAug 31, 2023
@Verso I am going to call it 'the pre-emptive argument from authority;. Unfortunately using a computer before 2000 doesn't even make you an authority.
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@jtb you seem nice.
Show threadWorkshopshedAug 31, 2023
@Verso it does seem to be quite hard to get rid of them , am working through it on my blog.
Show threadSean Eric FaganAug 31, 2023
@Verso Compilers are also not "necessary" or "required", we got along for more than 2 years without them.
Show threadRobertDowney18Aug 31, 2023
@Verso why do you hate cookies so much there my favorite food
Show threadKelly GuimontAug 31, 2023
@RobertDowney18 not real life cookies. Actual cookies are proof the gods love us and want us to be happy.
Show threadChancerubbageSep 1, 2023

@Verso I suppose it can be automated as a built in preference now, but I know someone who still flushes his cookie cache manually everytime he closes his browser multiple times a day. I certainly did in the 90s.

I never close my browser. There are always many pages open.